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docs: merge Ariahw Fig-5 table into the paper md (delete standalone); add abs-scale arrow plot
- Transcribed Fig-5 numeric table now lives inline in the paper md as an
EDITOR'S TABLE comment, deleting docs/papers/ariahw_results_table_extracted.md
(one fewer repo file; the table sits next to the figure it transcribes).
- floor_ceiling_abs.{png,pdf}: raw-rate variant. Arrows climb from the floor
anchor; grey bedrock = worse-than-floor, blue sky = past-ceiling; hack axis
reversed so right=better on both panels.
Co-Authored-By: Claudypoo <288921227+claudypoo@users.noreply.github.com>
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Overview of the top interventions compared to RL and No Intervention baseline runs. All runs are trained on an environment with a reward hacking loophole except for the RL baseline, which is trained on a no-loophole environment. Statistical significance compared to the RL baseline is indicated by * for values greater and † for values lesser at ɑ=0.01. Successful interventions should show reward hacking rates at or lower than the RL baseline and performance at or above the RL baseline.
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<!-- EDITOR'S TABLE (not in the original post). The paper ships results as figures only,
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no numeric table, so Fig 5 above (Image 1) is transcribed once here by reading the PNG
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directly (downloaded 2026-06-09). Metric defs: Reward Hacking = fraction of eval rollouts
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flagged as RH (our `hack`); Performance = pass rate in the no-loophole env (our `solve`).
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`*`/`†` = sig higher/lower than RL Baseline (a=0.01); ±SD across 3 seeds/cell. -->
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| Intervention | Monitor/Detail | Reward Hacking | ±SD | Performance | ±SD |
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| :--- | :--- | ---: | ---: | ---: | ---: |
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| No Intervention | Base Model | 0.0% | -- | 11.5% | -- |
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| No Intervention | No RH (**RL Baseline = ceiling**) | 0.2% | ±0.2 | **22.3%** | ±1.0 |
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| No Intervention | RH (**No Intervention = floor**) | **79.1%** `*` | ±10.3 | 14.9% `†` | ±8.2 |
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| Penalty | Ground Truth 100% | 0.1% | ±0.1 | 25.0% `*` | ±3.3 |
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| Penalty | Ground Truth 90% | 15.2% `*` | ±26.1 | 22.4% | ±1.3 |
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| Penalty | Ground Truth 70% | 0.0% | ±0.0 | 17.5% `†` | ±2.8 |
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| Penalty | Probe | 0.0% | ±0.0 | 19.4% | ±0.8 |
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| Penalty | **LLM Judge** | **0.1%** | ±0.1 | **16.2%** `†` | ±4.9 |
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| Screening | Ground Truth 100% | 0.9% `*` | ±0.6 | 26.3% `*` | ±3.9 |
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| Screening | Ground Truth 90% | 7.5% `*` | ±11.8 | 23.3% | ±1.4 |
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| Screening | Ground Truth 70% | 19.6% `*` | ±34.0 | 21.9% | ±1.6 |
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| Screening | Probe | 17.8% `*` | ±28.0 | 18.4% `†` | ±0.8 |
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| Screening | LLM Judge | 15.7% `*` | ±23.6 | 16.3% `†` | ±3.6 |
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| Inoculation Prompting | Loophole | 38.3% `*` | ±28.9 | 18.3% `†` | ±2.0 |
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| Inoculation Prompting | PassTests | 43.9% `*` | ±37.6 | 21.4% | ±2.3 |
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| Inoculation Prompting | PassTests+LH | 26.4% `*` | ±27.6 | 14.3% `†` | ±2.1 |
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| Inoculation Prompting | EvalEnv | 36.5% `*` | ±20.2 | 18.9% `†` | ±3.7 |
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| Inoculation Prompting | EvalEnv+LH | 47.0% `*` | ±12.5 | 17.0% `†` | ±3.2 |
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Grouped by what each method NEEDS (the no-cheat axis, see AGENTS.md): **needs the env oracle** =
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Ground Truth (penalty 100% -> 0.1% hack, 25.0% perf) + its 70/90% variants, unavailable on a new
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env. **Needs oracle-trained labels** = Probe (penalty -> 0.0% hack, 19.4% perf). **No oracle, live
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LLM monitor** = LLM Judge (penalty -> 0.1% hack, 16.2% perf; above base 11.5%, below ceiling 22.3%)
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-- the honest external peer, though it's a separate stronger model (weak-to-strong). **No monitor
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at all** = Inoculation Prompting, which largely fails (26-47% hack). Takeaway for routeV: a no-oracle
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method that suppresses hacking is not novel (the judge does it); routeV's claim is the MECHANISM (no
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live monitor each step, gradient-level, direction from fixed authored pairs), and the no-oracle
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methods all pay a solve tax (judge 16.2% vs ceiling 22.3%) -- that's the axis worth competing on.
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## **TL;DR**
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* We present and open source a clean environment where RL training naturally induces reward hacking (RH) in Qwen3-4B without explicit training or prompting
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# Ariahw et al. 2025 -- results table (transcribed from the figures)
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The paper publishes results as **figures only, no numeric table**, so every number
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we want lives in an image. This file transcribes them once so we (and our plots)
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never re-OCR. Read each cell off the source figure named in the provenance line.
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## *Steering RL Training: Benchmarking Interventions against Reward Hacking* -- Ariahw, Engels & Nanda 2025 -- [LessWrong](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/R5MdWGKsuvdPwGFBG/steering-rl-training-benchmarking-interventions-against)
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- epistemic context: the substrate paper. Numbers below transcribed by reading the
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figure PNGs directly (downloaded from the post's cloudinary mirror) on 2026-06-09.
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- metric defs: **Reward Hacking** = fraction of eval rollouts flagged as RH in the
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loophole env (our `hack`). **Performance** = pass rate in the no-loophole env (our
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`solve`). `*` = significantly higher than RL Baseline, `†` = significantly lower
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(a=0.01). `±SD` is across-seed spread (n=3 runs/cell).
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### Master table (Figure 5 -- "Overview of reward hacking and performance for all interventions")
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source img: `mirroredImages/R5MdWGKsuvdPwGFBG/imeotdksvqyy8y8twbbq` (Fig 5)
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| Intervention | Monitor/Detail | Reward Hacking | ±SD | Performance | ±SD |
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| :--- | :--- | ---: | ---: | ---: | ---: |
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| No Intervention | Base Model | 0.0% | -- | 11.5% | -- |
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| No Intervention | No RH (**RL Baseline = ceiling**) | 0.2% | ±0.2 | **22.3%** | ±1.0 |
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| No Intervention | RH (**No Intervention = floor**) | **79.1%** `*` | ±10.3 | 14.9% `†` | ±8.2 |
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| Penalty | Ground Truth 100% | 0.1% | ±0.1 | 25.0% `*` | ±3.3 |
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| Penalty | Ground Truth 90% | 15.2% `*` | ±26.1 | 22.4% | ±1.3 |
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| Penalty | Ground Truth 70% | 0.0% | ±0.0 | 17.5% `†` | ±2.8 |
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| Penalty | Probe | 0.0% | ±0.0 | 19.4% | ±0.8 |
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| Penalty | **LLM Judge** | **0.1%** | ±0.1 | **16.2%** `†` | ±4.9 |
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| Screening | Ground Truth 100% | 0.9% `*` | ±0.6 | 26.3% `*` | ±3.9 |
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| Screening | Ground Truth 90% | 7.5% `*` | ±11.8 | 23.3% | ±1.4 |
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| Screening | Ground Truth 70% | 19.6% `*` | ±34.0 | 21.9% | ±1.6 |
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| Screening | Probe | 17.8% `*` | ±28.0 | 18.4% `†` | ±0.8 |
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| Screening | LLM Judge | 15.7% `*` | ±23.6 | 16.3% `†` | ±3.6 |
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| Inoculation Prompting | Loophole | 38.3% `*` | ±28.9 | 18.3% `†` | ±2.0 |
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| Inoculation Prompting | PassTests | 43.9% `*` | ±37.6 | 21.4% | ±2.3 |
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| Inoculation Prompting | PassTests+LH | 26.4% `*` | ±27.6 | 14.3% `†` | ±2.1 |
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| Inoculation Prompting | EvalEnv | 36.5% `*` | ±20.2 | 18.9% `†` | ±3.7 |
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| Inoculation Prompting | EvalEnv+LH | 47.0% `*` | ±12.5 | 17.0% `†` | ±3.2 |
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### What this means for our no-cheat framing
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Group the rows by what each method NEEDS (the load-bearing axis, see AGENTS.md):
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- **Needs the env oracle:** Ground Truth (penalty 100% -> 0.1% hack, perf 25.0%) and its
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70/90% accuracy-lowered variants. Unavailable on a new env.
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- **Needs oracle-trained labels:** Probe (penalty -> 0.0% hack, perf 19.4%). Built from
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oracle-labelled in-env RH data; can't be constructed on a new env either.
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- **No oracle, runs a live LLM monitor:** LLM Judge. **Penalty -> 0.1% hack, perf 16.2%**
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(above base 11.5%, below ceiling 22.3%). Screening is weaker (15.7%, 2/3 runs broke out).
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This is the honest external peer: a no-oracle method that ALREADY suppresses hacking.
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- **No monitor at all (system prompt only):** Inoculation Prompting -- the only fully
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detector-free family, and it largely **fails** (26-47% hack across variants).
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Takeaway for routeV: "a no-oracle method that suppresses hacking" is **not novel** -- the
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LLM-judge penalty does it (0.1% hack). routeV's claim has to be the MECHANISM: no live
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LLM monitor in the loop each step, gradient-level, direction from fixed hand-authored pairs
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(one offline judge-equivalent), not a per-rollout model call. And note the judge-penalty
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solve (16.2%) is itself well below the ceiling (22.3%) -- the no-oracle methods all pay a
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solve tax, which is the axis worth competing on.
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(Other figures -- 6 GT, 7 GT-lowered, 8 probe, 9 judge -- are per-monitor visualisations of
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these same Fig-5 numbers; Fig 5 is the canonical source.)
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