## [FF][RST] The Waves Arisen [Ch.5]

* Author: u/Wertifloke *
* URL: https://wertifloke.wordpress.com/2015/01/29/the-waves-arisen-chapter-5/
* Score: 14

* Created: 2015-01-30T01:09:02

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> **u/Anderkent** [+1]  (11 hours later)
> 
> This chapter fell a bit flat. I was confused for a bit about the Hot Springs / Sound village thing. They were used a lot next to each other so I was initially of the impression that HS was the main city of land of Sound, or something, and had to reread once that stopped making sense. Seems sound is a new village that's taken over some HS territory, is that right?
> 
> But most of all Naruto and Sasuke are holding the biggest idiot ball here. You want to respect his 'I might die but if I live I'll be stronger?' Okay, but what reason you have to believe its true? Just the word of a stranger that conveniently knows a lot about your powers? That might be in character for canon!naruto, but is jarring here.

>> **u/AugSphere** [+3]  *Dark Lord of Corruption* (13 hours later)
>> 
>> I thought it worked well. Naruto was panicking about alienating Sasuke and did not think the situation through properly and Sasuke never had half a brain when it came to "free" powerups to begin with. It's still idiotic of course, but believable nonetheless.

>> **u/rumblestiltsken** [+3]  (20 hours later)
>> 
>> I don't like how it reads either, it doesn't *feel* realistic, but it probably is about right.
>> 
>> Psychologically you have several biases in play for both of them.
>> 
>> Orochimaru is playing the trustworthy friend to kabuto's suspicious character, think of it as a form of God cop bad cop.
>> 
>> Sasuke has been given a very valuable gift for free, the sharingan he is obsessed with, so he now trusts snake face way more than he should. 
>> 
>> Then his new benefactor is honest with him about the risk of the cursed seal (but only partly, presuming it still carries the other side effects) which again builds trust.
>> 
>> Finally, this person he trusts has used it himself (apparently, presumably a lie) so he clearly thinks the risk is worth it. Add in the story they *happened* to overhear about a young, short chunnin beating several jounin at once...
>> 
>> As for Naruto, in this story he is riddled with insecurity. He describes them all as loners, like he is trying to see similarities between them. Projection, or something.
>> 
>> He is constantly trying to tie their team together and make a family it seems, because he hasn't had any before. He gives away power for free, despite knowing how valuable it is. 
>> 
>> And he had also fallen for the small risk/big risk set up by orochimaru.
>> 
>> I think the characters as written could do this. It just reads like they are being silly, because they are being gamed and each have psychological weaknesses.

>>> **u/Anderkent** [+2]  (20 hours later)
>>> 
>>> I dunno, Naruto is actively trying to convince Sasuke not to try it at least for part of it; "why do you think it's even going to do anything if it works" is such an obvious question, ugh.
>>> 
>>> Oh well. The story goes on.

>>>> **u/Wertifloke** [+2]  (20 hours later)
>>>> 
>>>> Question added, HS/Sound clarified.

>>>>> **u/Anderkent** [+2]  (22 hours later)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks; can't say if it helped, you can only read a chapter for the first time once :P

>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2]  (a day later)
>>> 
>>> > He is constantly trying to tie their team together and make a family it seems, because he hasn't had any before. He gives away power for free, despite knowing how valuable it is. 
>>> 
>>> In a team, power is more valuable when shared. If teammates are more powerful, it might lead to you not dying.

>>>> **u/rumblestiltsken** [+2]  (a day later)
>>>> 
>>>> I agree, but the young Naruto seems to be rationalising when he takes that position, to my mind. His underlying motivation seems to be insecurity.

>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2]  (a day later)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, it paid off massivley in the newest chapter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sure, I'd agree, especially when he was all for illegally teaching kagebunshin to his team.

>>>>>> **u/rumblestiltsken** [+1]  (a day later)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It has paid off *if* Sasuke doesn't get corrupted by the seal. Which he put right on his frontal lobes.

>>>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+1]  (a day later)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I meant for Naruto. Sasuke is a lost cause I believe.

>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2]  (12 hours later)
>> 
>> They should have just reported everything to Kakashi before going for awakening of the sharingan.
>> 
>> After that, Sasuke was hooked for easy powerups.

> **u/ToaKraka** [+1]  *https://i.imgur.com/OQGHleQ.png* (12 hours later)
> 
> Maybe I'm too used to seeing Hinata stutter through every other word in the stories I read--but, until this chapter, I was assuming that she didn't have her canon shyness because I hadn't seen anything to indicate otherwise (stuttering, smiling only weakly, shrinking in on herself, etc.). Maybe it should've been made more apparent earlier?

> **u/Wertifloke** [+1]  (a day later)
> 
> Chapter 6 is up, reddit link is in the spam filter for now.

>> **u/kaukamieli** [+1]  (a day later)
>> 
>> Why does it always go there? Can't someone do something?

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