## The Gamer - a manhwa that is, if not rationalist, decently rational and full of munchkinry. MC discovers that there are people with all kinds of weird magic abilities. In his case, it's the ability to treat real life like a game, including grinding, stat points, finding random loot, etc. It's good.

* Author: u/Rhamni  *Aspiring author**
* URL: http://mangacow.co/The-Gamer/1/2/
* Score: 54

* Created: 2015-08-04T19:48:22

### Post:

[Link to content](http://mangacow.co/The-Gamer/1/2/)

### Comments:

> **u/kaukamieli** [+20]  (14 hours later)
> 
> It's actually kinda crappy, but I still read it for some reason.
> 
> I don't like when it says "games has this and this thing" like it's some universal law and I have never seen anything like that. Like in chapter 6, "There is something called wall-hitting in games. Monsters won't attack you if you have a wall behind your back."
> 
> It would be way better if the character said there is this thing in a game he plays and checks if it works here, but that shouldn't work too often either.
> 
> The guy is a bit stupid too. Continuing school feels pretty stupid when he doesn't have to actually study anymore, it's mostly a waste of time he could use grinding and he could meet the guys elsewhere.
> 
> His friend says stupid stuff too, like in chapter 8, "If you want to live a normal life, don't train your ability anymore. If you plan on training, be prepared or else you might be killed." He has lots of stuff he can train without anyone noticing. And getting stronger makes it harder to kill you.
> 
> And he said you'll get killed if you win a lottery with your powers, but apparently his family can win all the sports competitions they want.
> 
> He should also really talk to his mother...
> 
> He's also said to be addicted to gaming, but how many times have we seen him play any?
> 
> The sister of the friend in chapter 10 checks if he is a fake with a hit that should crush his bones...
> 
> I did like that the guy started with melee before going to magic.
> 
> Another thing like this is Tate No Yuusha No Yariagari. It's actually a novel, but it has manga too, but the novel is way further. I think writing might work better for these kinds of works. The writing is a bit crappy both in that and the gamer, though.
> 
> edit: also, dlc? seriously?

>> **u/Transfuturist** [+6]  *Carthago delenda est.* (23 hours later)
>> 
>> Thank you for the comprehensive warning. This sounds like I would get brain damage from all the wallbanging.

>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+5]  (a day later)
>>> 
>>> I just reread it today. It's not all bad and is actually kinda entertaining. He does improve his wisdom a lot later, parts of that might be attributed to low wisdom score.
>>> 
>>> That fanfic in top comment looks better though.

>>>> **u/None** [+3]  (2 days later)
>>>> 
>>>> can confirm. i think the fanfic is better.  The Gamer manga makes me think the mc is a fucking moron at times and at others that he has never played a video game since like 1990s.  he's too naive

>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+3]  (2 days later)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been reading the fic nonstop now with only sleeping in between. It's definitely the best thing of the genre I know.

>>>>>> **u/Rhamni** [+2]  *Aspiring author* (2 days later)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same here. It's great. I mean I'd be much more cowardly in his position because "can't risk my life now when I'll be so much stronger in a year", but it's great.

>>>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+5]  (5 days later)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Shitfuck. There is disc five. I've still been reading nonstop, and thought I got it all, but those fuckers locked the thread and there is more!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm ofc glad, but I should study, but apparently not going to happen today either.

>>>>>>>> **u/Rhamni** [+1]  *Aspiring author* (5 days later)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thread 4, page 329... You telling me there's more after this 1800 page thread? I'm starting to get a little bit tired of all the long descriptions and lack of action lately, but I'm sure it'll get back to the actiony stuff soon enough. There is no way I'm not finishing it. Damn it's long.

>>>>>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+3]  (5 days later)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes, there is more... Do finish it, it's damn awesome and there is wonderful action and fun and everything. Yes, I can see how people would go "that's bullshit OP shit", but well, you can't give Frodo the Deathstar without giving Sauron... wait... Anyway, he is going to need all that power for a reason.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I've been thinking I gotta try to do something better than The Gamer, but I can't possibly top this.

>>>>>>>>>> **u/Rhamni** [+2]  *Aspiring author* (5 days later)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It actually made me look through RWBY. It's short, and mostly almost nearly decent. Mostly though it was worth it for me because it showed me what the characters look like. (Except where the characters don't look badass enough for the fic, as with Penny).

>>>>>>>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2]  (5 days later)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yea, I watched through it too because of this, because of stuff like the Grimm and the world setting, which just has to be seen to know what they look like, and the characters too. I really liked it, too bad the creator died, so that's it. :(

>>>>>>>>>>>> **u/Rhamni** [+1]  *Aspiring author* (5 days later)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Whaaat?!* Shit. And it ended right in the middle of things, too. A real shame.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2]  (5 days later)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed. :( http://deadline.com/2015/02/monty-oum-dead-rwby-creator-rooster-teeth-animator-1201365261/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **u/Rhamni** [+1]  *Aspiring author* (5 days later)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A shame. [However, seems volume 3 is in production without him.](http://www.tubefilter.com/2015/08/07/rooster-teeth-animation-rwby-volume-3-new-characters-sets/)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2]  (5 days later)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ooooh, cool, thanks for this info. Wait, did volume 2 actually get finished?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **u/Rhamni** [+2]  *Aspiring author* (5 days later)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Didn't volume 2 end with the [ominous meeting of character with a very distinct look] who said they had a lot to talk about?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2]  (5 days later)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ohshit. The Games We Play stopped fucking around and started giving some real important answers. I can't believe how ryuugi came up with all this shit.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **u/Rhamni** [+2]  *Aspiring author* (5 days later)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damn it! I have things to do, man. I have things to do!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...It might take a few days, but I'm definitely gonna catch up.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2]  (5 days later)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's taken me a few days of pretty much nonstop reading. Fuck this shit. :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And apparenly ruugi has been posting every day this far... Which is unbelievable. So gotta read a lot to catch up.

>>>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2]  (2 days later)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But the thing is, if he'd be cowardly, he would advance at far slower rate. Danger is a shortcut.

>>>>>>>> **u/Rhamni** [+2]  *Aspiring author* (2 days later)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is true. However, it's possible to strike a balance. Before 'big mission 2', he thinks to himself that the *safer* way to speed level would be to have daddy take him out somewhere dangerous and guard him while he fought Grimm. That would certainly be much slower than what he does do, but he is young. What does it *really* matter if it takes 2 or 10 years to catch up to the baddest badasses in the land? It's more enjoyable to read this way, it's just not paranoid enough considering how useful he'll be if he survives a few years.

>>>>>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+3]  (3 days later)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It matters if something really big happens in five years and our main character isn't strong enough to end the apocalypse. :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Though he has been leveling damn fast lately, doing those quests isn't apparently the fastest way to get power.

>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+2]  *Roll the Dice on Fate* (a day later)
>>> 
>>> It's not *bad*, I enjoy it when I read it, but I enjoy the genre it spawned more.

>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+3]  (a day later)
>>>> 
>>>> Yea, it's definitely the genre thing, though I don't think it begun the genre. Tate no yuusha no yariagari is a novel with over 300 chapters I think. Does the genre have a name yet even?

>>>> **u/Transfuturist** [+2]  *Carthago delenda est.* (a day later)
>>>> 
>>>> Uh... what genre is that?

>>>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+3]  *Roll the Dice on Fate* (a day later)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gaming genre. Basically, pick a character in a series and give them ungodly power creep according to RPG rules.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I find it forces structure and progression onto the story. While few of them are truly great, few of them are bad at the same time. You can generally be confident you're in for at least a reasonable time.

>>>>>> **u/None** [+2]  (2 days later)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> what are some truly great ones if you dont mind me asking?

>>>>>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+2]  *Roll the Dice on Fate* (2 days later)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well there's The Games We Play that was recced higher up in the thread. Naruto: The Gamer Files was... decent as well. In retrospect I may have overstated the number of great ones out there.

>>>>>>>> **u/FeepingCreature** [+3]  *GCV Literally The Entire Culture* (7 days later)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'd count Dungeon Keeper Ami, which may actually compete with TGWP for total length. (And is apparently "not abandoned". Make of that what you will.)

>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+1]  (a day later)
>>>>> 
>>>>> The one where people get the gaming power, exp and shit.

>> **u/literal-hitler** [+3]  (a day later)
>> 
>> I'm temporarily rage quitting from him not [Chapter ~44 spoiler.](/s "trying to get more skill books when he saved that one chick's life.")

>>> **u/Rhamni** [+2]  *Aspiring author* (a day later)
>>> 
>>> He also never visits a library. It's downright criminal. Still, I think the series does get better and better.

>> **u/None** [+3]  (4 days later)
>> 
>> Very late, but I feel like [this image](http://i.imgur.com/pwjx06T.png) describes it perfectly.

> **u/GeeJo** [+30]  *Custom Flair* (17 minutes later)
> 
> Good rec. I've found that I'm enjoying the crossover fanfic [The Games We Play](https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/rwby-the-gamer-the-games-we-play.306381/) more than the original Gamer manwha. Reliable daily updates for just over a year probably have something to do with that, but it seems to do a better job of scaling up the periodic challenges to the exponential power of the protagonist's ability.
> 
> Another manwha you might enjoy if you liked *The Gamer* is *Dice: The Cube that Changes Everything*, which is along mostly the same lines.

>> **u/Kishoto** [+11]  (an hour later)
>> 
>> I was reading this fic on ffnet but it seemed abandoned. Am I to understand the space battles one is updated daily??

>>> **u/None** [+9]  (an hour later)
>>> 
>>> Yup. At midnight EST, about.

>>> **u/None** [+3]  (2 hours later)
>>> 
>>> Also, it's gotten really awesome lately. There's a ridiculous amount of bts worldbuilding

>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+1]  (2 days later)
>>>> 
>>>> And the comments are awesome too! :D All the omakes and stuff. 
>>>> 
>>>> >Luck stat: Hmmmm how can I halp the mostest?
>>>> 
>>>> >Jaune: omg. No
>>>> 
>>>> >Luck stat: I HALPING!
>>>> 
>>>> edit: Is the guy trying to break some record or something? There is so much of it...

>> **u/None** [+11]  (4 hours later)
>> 
>> I stopped caring about that fic due to..well..how do I say it?
>> 
>> Power induced apathy? 
>> 
>> Also, apathy related to the numerous twists and stake raising.

>> **u/eaglejarl** [+5]  (11 hours later)
>> 
>> Is [this](https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/rwby-the-gamer-the-games-we-play.306381/#post-14816773) the first entry in The Games We Play? It feels very much not an opening, so I'm thinking maybe I missed something. I'm familiar with the Gamer concept from other fanfic and enjoy it, but would prefer to start at the actual beginning.

>>> **u/GeeJo** [+5]  *Custom Flair* (12 hours later)
>>> 
>>> The post above, with the table of contents, is the first entry.

>>>> **u/Rhamni** [+2]  *Aspiring author* (a day later)
>>>> 
>>>> This was surprisingly easy to miss. Like ej, I just assumed it started with the first linked chapter, rather than having one immediately under the table.

>> **u/t3tsubo** [+4]  (21 hours later)
>> 
>> I've always skipped it as well since I've not watched RWBY. Is it readable without?

>>> **u/GeeJo** [+6]  *Custom Flair* (22 hours later)
>>> 
>>> Yep - I caught up with it without having watched any of RWBY, and didn't particularly feel as though I'd missed anything. It convinced me to watch the show, in fact.
>>> 
>>> I mean, there's only about 5 hours of total content in the whole of the RWBY canon, counting trailers and the background-webisodes, so there's not a tremendous amount to miss in the first place. The lore of *The Games We Play* is significantly more extensive.

>>>> **u/None** [+1]  (2 days later)
>>>> 
>>>> same here.  never watched rwby but tgwp is funaominal

>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+3]  (2 days later)
>>> 
>>> You _should_ watch it though, at least one ep. But the first season doesn't take much time, the episodes are short and it's 16 eps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sGiE10zNQM
>>> 
>>> I rather like knowing what those flying things look like and I didn't get blake being a girl too early and it's nice to see what the grims look like. Not to mention our main character.

>> **u/kaukamieli** [+5]  (a day later)
>> 
>> Everyone who is going to read The Games We Play, I suggest you check [RWBY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sGiE10zNQM) first. At least one episode, 12 min, to get some kind of hold of the world.

>> **u/Gworn** [+3]  (14 hours later)
>> 
>> It's not bad, but the introspection, grinding and many fight scenes should be cut by more than half. Otherwise it becomes a slog to get through.
>> 
>> I recommend skimming large portions of many chapters to get to the good stuff.

>>> **u/None** [+5]  (2 days later)
>>> 
>>> but all that stuff you suggest skipping consists of a LOT of world building and character development

>> **u/literal-hitler** [+2]  (6 hours later)
>> 
>> I've always skipped over it, but I might have to give it a read after I finish this. I just saw RWBY last week too, there was a lot less of it than I thought there's be.

>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+2]  *Roll the Dice on Fate* (a day later)
>>> 
>>> I very much enjoyed it, and would definitely recommend it to read.

>> **u/elevul** [+1]  *Cyoria Observer* (9 days later)
>> 
>> Read. Format aside, it's definitely way too drawn out, especially in the explanations and plot exposition, and am fairly in doubt on whether the protagonist is really winning because of his stats or because of plot, which is definitely not a good trait for a rational story.
>> 
>> On another side, I haven't found any mention of rationality in the thread, so I guess that's fine?
>> 
>> Either way, a very interesting story, but needs a lot of polishing.

>> **u/Alphanos** [+0]  *The Bright Powers* (4 days later)
>> 
>> For new readers, start with the above link.  However there's no direct link-path from that page to the current, full table of contents that gets updated every day.  After you've read a few chapters, you should bookmark [this page](https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/rwby-the-gamer-the-games-we-play-disk-five.341621/#post-17610897) for an up-to-date complete chapter listing.

> **u/thedarkone47** [+9]  (3 hours later)
> 
> player OP please nerf.

> **u/AugSphere** [+7]  *Dark Lord of Corruption* (11 hours later)
> 
> The casual corporal punishment thing sure took me by surprise. Did not expect to see that in South Korea.

> **u/blockbaven** [+9]  (8 hours later)
> 
> I liked it starting out but its just kinda fucking boring to read after a while. I get that these kinds of wish-fulfillment series can scratch a certain itch, I read them too sometimes, but I wouldn't ever recommend them to someone else

> **u/literal-hitler** [+6]  (6 hours later)
> 
> >Reading Mode: Long Strip
> 
> THANK YOU! 
> 
> How do almost no websites have this?

>> **u/Transfuturist** [+3]  *Carthago delenda est.* (23 hours later)
>> 
>> Ad money.

>>> **u/literal-hitler** [+2]  (a day later)
>>> 
>>> Put more ads down the side?

>>>> **u/Transfuturist** [+0]  *Carthago delenda est.* (a day later)
>>>> 
>>>> I'd prefer solutions that don't involve more advertisement...

>>>>> **u/literal-hitler** [+3]  (a day later)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Like having it be a paid/premium feature? Because that's the usual alternative.

> **u/Igigigif** [+6]  *IT Foxgirl* (8 minutes later)
> 
> Seconding this so much.

> **u/eltegid** [+3]  (14 hours later)
> 
> I don't know that there's a lot of munchkinry. 42 chapters in and I'd say he's just overpowered. The system doesn't have rules that need to be munchkined (beyond something very basic), the rules are just very much in his favour...

>> **u/eltegid** [+6]  (15 hours later)
>> 
>> Ok, there's some munchkining later on. The game still seems rigged in his favor.
>> I don't have a problem with the lack of munchkinry, and I am enjoying it. There are some points where he ignores OBVIOUS solutions to problems, and that does bother me.

>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2]  (a day later)
>> 
>> He just feels overpowered because he keeps fighting sucky mobs.

>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+2]  *Roll the Dice on Fate* (a day later)
>>> 
>>> And also because according to the rules of the world he has the most powerful and awesome possible type of power.

>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+1]  (a day later)
>>>> 
>>>> While this may be true, he is somewhat low level, so it doesn't really matter. If you make Frodo a jedi, you give Sauron the Death star. Ofc he has to get stronger fast if he is to catch up.

>>> **u/eltegid** [+2]  (a day later)
>>> 
>>> No, come on. He needs to fight to level and his power allows him to create the mobs to fight, at the appropiate level. He also progresses much much faster than anyone in the world, just because (think of when he grinds Vit and Str, he gains in weeks what others gain in years).
>>> 
>>> Also, a power like this /could/ have limitations, like 'you cannot create your own skills' which is commonplace in games. But fuck it, it doesn't!
>>> 
>>> All in all, in two months he gets power levels that are on par and above people who've been training their whole lifes. I think it's not unreasonable to predict that in a couple of years he could be at the 'top' level in absolute terms. So yeah, OP as fuck.

>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2]  (a day later)
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, he _will_ be overpowered. But he is not yet. Yes, the ability is OP, yet the guy is not yet.

>>>>> **u/eltegid** [+1]  (2 days later)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, the ability is OP. His 'class' is OP. Therefore almost no munchkinry.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No, scratch that. The ability is OP in a way that doesn't leave much space for munchkining.

>>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+3]  (2 days later)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Technically any class you can munchkin is just OP, it's just that it's not always this obvious. Thus munchkinry is just noticing the ways things are broken and utilizing it. Thus this fits well in the realm of munchkinry, or pretty much nothing does. But yea, it's totally obvious bullshit.

>>>> **u/SpeculativeFiction** [+1]  (2 months later)
>>>> 
>>>> > He also progresses much much faster than anyone in the world, just because (think of when he grinds Vit and Str, he gains in weeks what others gain in years).
>>>> 
>>>> You know, the comic says that, but his friends and acquaintances level as much (or more) than he does.

>>> **u/ancientcampus** [+1]  *juggling kittens* (12 days later)
>>> 
>>> That said, watching a character literally grind is pretty boring.

> **u/literal-hitler** [+3]  (a day later)
> 
> Evidently South Korea does health bars backwards? I was really confused and thought the red parts on the left were the amount of health remaining instead of health used...

> **u/Nevereatcars** [+3]  *The Greatest Is Behind* (2 days later)
> 
> Anybody got any good actual video games that are similar to how The Gamer is set up?

>> **u/Rhamni** [+3]  *Aspiring author* (2 days later)
>> 
>> I really wish there was something like this. In fact, just give me a ginormous skill tree and I'll be happy as could be.

>>> **u/Nevereatcars** [+7]  *The Greatest Is Behind* (2 days later)
>>> 
>>> I hardly ever see games where you can level individual skills like that. The closest I can think of off the top of my head is Skyrim, and Skyrim's perk system is tied into its main leveling system so it's entirely different.
>>> 
>>> And existing skills mutating into new skills once you've hit a high enough level in it? Never seen it before. Maybe I should start playing Korean RPGs.

>>>> **u/ajuc** [+2]  (2 days later)
>>>> 
>>>> There was similar system of skills in old DOS rpg - Betrayal At Krondor. They were improved by usage, and often weren't combat related.

> **u/None** [+6]  (8 hours later)
> 
> The main character spends time grinding, and reading it feels like grinding after a few chapters too.

> **u/elevul** [+2]  *Cyoria Observer* (9 days later)
> 
> Read all.
> 
> Thing that annoyed me the most: assuming Gamer's Mind, why the hell is he continuously flustered when dealing with girls? That makes no sense at all.

>> **u/Rhamni** [+1]  *Aspiring author* (9 days later)
>> 
>> I hadn't considered that. Good point.

> **u/None** [+1]  (an hour later)
> 
> I enjoy it quite a bit. The main character can be forgiven for not instantly ascending to godhood, since he starts out as an ordinary guy who loves games, not an evil genius.

>> **u/DCarrier** [+7]  (2 hours later)
>> 
>> He doesn't exactly have a list of rules. In fact, there most likely aren't rules. It appears that God is making it up as he goes along.

>> **u/None** [+2]  (9 hours later)
>> 
>> Also, it's not clear that his power will allow him to ascend to godhood, as compared to, say, the other powerhouses in the setting.

>>> **u/None** [+2]  (22 hours later)
>>> 
>>> The Games We Play demonstrates a pretty good possibility. He can get stronger by grinding.
>>> 
>>> Although I do want to clarify that I wasn't being literal. He can pretty easily attain vast-to-infinite power if he really dedicated himself to it. Maybe not literal godhood.

>>>> **u/Transfuturist** [+1]  *Carthago delenda est.* (23 hours later)
>>>> 
>>>> > He can get stronger by grinding
>>>> 
>>>> As most games have a power curve sensibly limited by diminishing returns and level caps, no, this is not a road to godhood.

>>>>> **u/gabbalis** [+3]  (a day later)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or it works on something closer to Disgaea rules.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can beat those games with levels in the early hundreds. But the level cap is 9999, and if you know what you're doing it actually gets easier to level as time goes on, so your gains are exponential.

>>>>>> **u/Rhamni** [+3]  *Aspiring author* (a day later)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Item World is best world.

>>>>>> **u/Transfuturist** [+1]  *Carthago delenda est.* (a day later)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> =_=

>>>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+1]  *Roll the Dice on Fate* (a day later)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Most games that spring to mind to me are exponential in their returns. At level 10 you do 100 damage, at level 50 you do 8000 and at 99 you do multiple attacks each doing 99999.

>>>>>> **u/Pakars** [+2]  (a day later)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or you play a game like Disgaea where it starts showing damage in millions/billions(276.34Bn! 23.47Tn!) to keep there from being too many numbers on screen.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I need exponents to show how much damage I do. Though, numbers that high are only really feasible by stacking modifiers really high.

>>>>>> **u/Transfuturist** [+1]  *Carthago delenda est.* (a day later)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Diminishing returns in levels gained through grinding. The ineffectiveness of staying where you are with the same enemies diminishes because they either net the same XP per kill while the to-level requirement grows, or the XP per kill gained shrinks to nothing. Sometimes both. It's a mechanical approach to encourage progression in the game.

>>>>> **u/None** [+0]  (23 hours later)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Okay, well, if you want to make the conversation work like that, there's no point in continuing. The people who get it will get it.

>> **u/Sailor_Vulcan** [+1]  *Champion of Justice and Reason* (4 hours later)
>> 
>> If you want an evil gaming genius, try Mewgle from Brave New World by Ri2. He's a clone of mew who loves games and he's one of the most powerful demons in the series, AND he nearly succeeded in usurping the big bad "ruler of evil" Deoxys himself, and almost turned all reality into an RPG in a prior incarnation of the Omniverse. But he was stopped by Ash's squirtle, Leonardo, who used his cool superpowered sunglasses to see through Mewgle's plan, and break everyone free of the virtual reality they had been trapped in without realizing it. Mewgle and Leo became arch enemies and reincarnated many times, fighting countless battles over the eons.
>> 
>> Long story. Literally.

>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+2]  *Roll the Dice on Fate* (a day later)
>>> 
>>> Jesus fuck that's 3.6 million words right there. He literally put in 1000 words a day for 10 years straight from 2004 to 2014. Who does that? Who does that for less that 400 favs?

>>>> **u/Nevereatcars** [+1]  *The Greatest Is Behind* (a day later)
>>>> 
>>>> [A-HEM](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4112682/1/The-Subspace-Emissary-s-Worlds-Conquest)
>>>> 
>>>> He beckons to you.

>>>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+1]  *Roll the Dice on Fate* (a day later)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tell me, is it worth putting the time in to read this? Because that's a pretty big time investment right there.

>>>>>> **u/Nevereatcars** [+3]  *The Greatest Is Behind* (a day later)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hell if I know. I only know of it by reputation. It's the longest fanfiction in the world, apparently.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I never tried, and don't recommend it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In other news, if you're the author of Roll the Dice on Fate (some subtle clues are hinting towards that) I'm loving it so far.

>>>>>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+2]  *Roll the Dice on Fate* (a day later)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Glad to hear you're enjoying it. People's satisfaction, liking the challenge of writing stuff ~~and those sweet sweet likes~~ are the whole reason I'm doing it after all. :-)

>>> **u/Nevereatcars** [+1]  *The Greatest Is Behind* (13 hours later)
>>> 
>>> Why should I read it when I have what looks like a full plot synopsis right here?

>>>> **u/Transfuturist** [+1]  *Carthago delenda est.* (23 hours later)
>>>> 
>>>> I think that's backstory.

>>>>> **u/Sailor_Vulcan** [+1]  *Champion of Justice and Reason* (3 days later)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes that's just backstory. The main story is much bigger. At it's most basic level the plot is the plot of Paper Mario: The thousand year door, but set in the world of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue rescue team and [spoiler](#s "the main pokemon videogames and anime") There's more to it than that though. It's really epic and I highly recommend it.

> **u/Rhamni** [+1]  *Aspiring author* (7 minutes later)
> 
> He does fail to break the setting in week one, but I'd forgive him since the story is entertaining. He starts out weak and not fully understanding how his power works, but he does pretty good job experimenting his way to munchkinry. It's still ongoing, but there are 92 chapters out.

>> **u/PL_TOC** [+3]  (20 hours later)
>> 
>> Thanks for posting this. I completed the first season yesterday. This is definitely due for a rational treatment. I'm surprised it never occurred to the mc to head to a library.

>>> **u/IomKg** [+3]  (a day later)
>>> 
>>> its because he never increased his wis :P

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