## Unsong: Chapter 32: The Human Form Divine

* Author: u/gamarad  *LessWrong (than usual)**
* URL: http://unsongbook.com/chapter-32-the-human-form-divine/
* Score: 38

* Created: 2016-08-07T16:21:22

### Post:

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### Comments:

> **u/monkyyy0** [+3]  (12 minutes later)
> 
> So throwing this out there I think uriel dies at this conference. Perhaps with a misunderstanding of left or right( inb4 nonfallen angels have left and right switched around?)

>> **u/___ratanon___** [+5]  *Holy, holy is the lord of /etc/hosts* (an hour later)
>> 
>> Who is going to maintain his machine then?
>> 
>> Also, Interlude ו, set in 2017:
>> > We learned that Uriel, the only entity keeping any of this even slightly functional, has some serious issues of his own and does not entirely inspire confidence.
>> 
>> Present tense, which implies Uriel is still alive.

>>> **u/monkyyy0** [+1]  (an hour later)
>>> 
>>> hmmmm maybe falls then; it seems like t controls politics and this is a political move and assuming random teenager is sohu, sohu is no longer with him

>>>> **u/None** [+1]  (4 hours later)
>>>> 
>>>> [removed]

> **u/None** [+2]  (4 days later)
> 
> Why is this in /r/Rational? Maybe if I was Jewish I would get it, but this doesn't seem like an attempt at rational fiction.

>> **u/___ratanon___** [+3]  *Holy, holy is the lord of /etc/hosts* (5 days later)
>> 
>> It isn't. But [apparently it was decided it stays](/r/rational/comments/4sv6te/meta_is_unsong_rational_fic/).

>> **u/noggin-scratcher** [+2]  *I am a happy tree* (4 days later)
>> 
>> The sub is not necessarily strict on *only* truly rational fiction being posted - if it's sufficiently rational-adjacent to be enjoyed by the same sort of demographic/mindset as the people who have collected here, then it's probably fair game (self-regulating community, it keeps getting upvoted)
>> 
>> Also the author is a part of the LessWrong/rational crowd; his blogging is more rational than his fiction.

>>> **u/None** [+1]  (5 days later)
>>> 
>>> The sidebar says:
>>> >A subreddit dedicated to the discussion of works of rational and rationalist fiction
>>> 
>>> Why not start /r/LWBookClub for stuff that doesn't belong here but is written by the right people? Rational fiction isn't going to gain popularity if people see it as synonymous with LW circlejerk.
>>> 
>>> Imagine this sub was filled with One Direction fanfic. That would be terrible moderation even if ten thousand OD fans voted everything up. 
>>> People: vote down if it's in the wrong sub no matter who wrote it.
>>> /u/alexanderwales and other mods start actually enforcing the shit in the sidebar.
>>> 
>>> PS. Nothing against Scott A, I've loved all his writing that I can understand.

>>>> **u/noggin-scratcher** [+1]  *I am a happy tree* (5 days later)
>>>> 
>>>> > Why not start /r/LWBookClub for stuff that doesn't belong here but is written by the right people?
>>>> 
>>>> Sounds cool, I would subscribe to it. Don't personally feel strongly enough about it to put in the effort to create/promote/moderate though. But, I mean, no-one's stopping you, if you want to.
>>>> 
>>>> > That would be terrible moderation even if ten thousand OD fans voted everything up.
>>>> 
>>>> Minor false equivalence there: what we're seeing is (presumably) rational-fiction fans voting it up, not a group coming from *outside* the community doing so. Unless there's an 'entryist' group of Unsong fans who don't participate in the rest of the sub, but that seems unlikely.
>>>> 
>>>> But I take your point; if we all collectively decided to upvote pictures of ducks as part of some sort of bizarre in-joke, that wouldn't make them rational fiction. 
>>>> 
>>>> Although... if this comment were widely seen, I wouldn't bet *against* it accidentally starting a trend involving pictures of ducks. Maybe I'm mistaken, just my read on the collective personality of the sub.

> **u/monkyyy0** [+1]  (7 hours later)
> 
> Lying is *all* about empethy yet he just made a claim that the wicked will be unable to stop and think "gods right or my right" when faced with hell

>> **u/Frommerman** [+1]  (a day later)
>> 
>> I think it's metaphorical.
>> 
>> Besides, Unsong!logic dictates that this makes perfect sense.

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