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[RT] New chapter of Lighting Up the Dark, a rationalist Naruto fic.

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u/Riddle-Tom_Riddle [+5] (2 hours later)

When I updated my stories, I had forgotten this one; It hadn't been updated in a long while.

I loved the reference to General Chaos, I cackled and everything.

Nothing else to say right now, still reading it.

Edit: Actually, what's up with the thumbnail? Why Code Geass?

Edit^(2): Oh. Ohh. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh... spoiler

u/Kodix [+1] (11 hours later)

Regarding your spoiler

u/None [+4] (11 hours later)

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u/Kodix [+0] (11 hours later)

Honestly I just used the spoiler tag because the original post did, but I don't think it's at all necessary. As for the usage, it's [Title here, I put "regarding your spoiler", no quotes](#s "remember the quotes, put text here").

Anyway, I greatly enjoy your fic, thank you for that. It's one of the better I've seen.

As to your response

In short

u/FeepingCreature [+2] GCV Literally The Entire Culture (4 hours later)

Whee!

u/liamash3 [+2] Mizu (10 hours later)

Well, this was a nice chapter. I enjoyed the trick at the start :) That new technique naruto learnt seems really helpful - just thinking, but wouldn't Hinata's technique work fine if you could remove the recoil damage from it? That means clones could do it fine, right?

u/Kodix [+0] (11 hours later)

That means clones could do it fine, right?

Definitely sounds like it.

u/None [+2] (11 hours later)

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u/Sophronius [+1] The Need to Become Stronger (10 days later)

Clones are intangible: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Clone_Technique

Sakura used them as a distraction, nothing more.

u/autowikiabot [+1] (10 days later)

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#### Clone Technique:


A ninjutsu that creates an intangible copy of one's own body, without any substance. Since the clone itself doesn't have the ability to attack, and thus can only be used to confuse the enemy, it is mainly used in combination with other ninjutsu. It's a basic technique, but depending on one's ingenuity, it can be used effectively. The clones may not dissipate when they come into contact with something.

These clones can be easily distinguished by persons with dōjutsu. A person with normal eyes can also distinguish the clones from the original, since the clones do not have shadows and will not disrupt the area around themselves with their movement (i.e. won't kick up dust, crush grass, etc.).


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u/JackStargazer [+2] Primordial Apologist (19 hours later)

So, I noticed here that Possible Spoiler.

This is supported by what we have seen of Kyubey's thought process so far.

Thoughts?

u/Laborbuch [+2] (22 hours later)

If your assumption holds true, Gaara would be the first (in-canon) opportunity to sketch out the thought processes and goals of tailed beasts with any degree of comparability to their human equivalent. He could offer valuable insights in what colour spectrum the motivations of such beasts are: are they greyscale, orange and blue, or so far removed from colour they smell like chlorine pentafluoride?

u/JackStargazer [+1] Primordial Apologist (22 hours later)

That's my thought as well.

u/Laborbuch [+1] (14 hours later)

I liked this one. So chakra in your setting is sapient, but not sentient?

u/None [+2] (15 hours later)

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u/Laborbuch [+3] (16 hours later)

I'm sorry for the lack of information on which interpretation of those terms I meant.

In most cases I adhere to sapience as the ability to use tools, to plan ahead, for intellectual capacity, so to speak, whereas sentience more properly reflects the emotional spectrum; empathy, capacity for pain and passion, those things.

In light of your story this interpretation feels true concerning chakra: it can react and respond to stimuli in the fashion of an automaton, but does not care for feelings of its master / wielder, nor the target it is aiming / aimed at. It has no aspirations of its own, as far as I understand it, and I would even dare say chakra is bereft of any agency.

The counter to that hypothesis are the tailed beasts, of course, being of pure chakra and actual goals, whatever those might be.

u/AmeteurOpinions [+2] Finally, everyone was working together. (17 hours later)

Perhaps the tailed beasts only seem to be pure chakra, and are in actuality only 99.99999926 percent chakra, the last bit being some internal motive or instruction.

u/Laborbuch [+3] (17 hours later)

Perhaps

  • in sapience of a high enough order sentience emerges
  • they are following an instruction given them at the time of their creation (they're effectively a self-sustaining and maybe self-aware jutsu)
  • it's lunchtime.

u/AmeteurOpinions [+2] Finally, everyone was working together. (18 hours later)

I can't decide which is scariest.

That's bad.

u/Laborbuch [+2] (22 hours later)

Then my work here is done.

u/Sophronius [+1] The Need to Become Stronger (10 days later)

I am curious how you will explain techniques that involve the user's soul stepping outside their body, or immortality techniques like those of Sasori and Kakuzu. Or how Orochimaru couldn't use his arms anymore after his chakra-arms were sealed. I think that in canon naruto, chakra basically is your soul. Is your explanation of chakra consciousness a replacement of that? Or is it an addition? Does that mean people have three consciousness inside them: Chakra, their brain and their soul?

if so, that's freaky!

u/gabbalis [+0] (15 hours later)

You mean because the rule of consent applies to chakra? I thought it was more like, whoever set up the system for manipulating chakra (probably the sage) used chakra as an easy way to identify sapience, since it's usually at least a necessary condition. I mean even the pseudo AIs in this universe have chakra, so a chakraless sapience might be an unsuspected edge case

u/Jello_Raptor [+1] The Last Tool User (8 days later)

Good lord, The Naruto fanfics here made me nostalgic and start to rewatch the actual show.

It's painful how mind numbingly stupid Naruto and everyone else is, I swear y'all are spoiling me. Having a ready supply of fiction with intelligent characters is wonderful.

Anyway, I'm really curious to see what you do with Gaara,especially whether his seemingly violent nature stems from genuinely alien thought processes.