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Created: 2015-02-25T21:00:35
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u/None [+18] (41 minutes later)
I don't know why I expected a series called "Failure" to have any sort of happy ending.
u/Kishoto [+13] (45 minutes later)
Still reeling from the loss of Dumbledore honestly. That's a masterful chess move if I ever seen one. The definition of playing the game "one level higher than you do".
I really want to see what Voldemort's end game for Harry is. He's seemingly investing a lot (although I guess, on his scale, a unicorn, a murder, a troll and a 5 minute ritual isn't THAT much) in Harry's well being here. Even accounting for the prophecy here. In addition, I feel like prophecies play the game at level zero anyway. As in, I feel they're invulnerable to the sort of direct manipulation Riddle (both of them) favors.
u/nevinera [+7] (2 hours later)
I'm pretty sure that 'one level higher than you' remark was specific to Harry. QV is literally one level higher than Harry at any point in time because he can run an internal self-simulation of Harry's rational processes.
u/itisike [+7] Dragon Army (2 hours later)
He misread Harry multiple times, and said so in Parseltounge iirc.
u/nevinera [+2] (15 hours later)
Of course - I didn't mean to imply that he was infallible in so doing.
u/Kishoto [+2] (5 hours later)
Agreed, it was directed at Harry. But that doesn't mean he wasn't playing one level higher then DD as well. Although the story's not over, so for all I know, this could get very meta.
u/azripah [+5] (an hour later)
The 28^th? Ack! EY, why must you torture me so?
u/Jace_MacLeod [+8] (an hour later)
It seems Voldemort is rather hilariously misinterpreting a prophecy about Harry bringing about the Singularity. (Well, hilarious if you're not Harry.)
u/kaukamieli [+5] (an hour later)
Misinterpreting? It's obviously going to be a non-friendly AI which will kill and destroy everything. ;)
u/Transfuturist [+7] Carthago delenda est. (an hour later)
You say that like Harry is non-Friendly.
u/None [+1] (3 hours later)
Well he is.
u/Transfuturist [+1] Carthago delenda est. (4 hours later)
Is he really? How so?
u/None [+2] (a day later)
He's human, but has nowhere near the kind of moral integrity I want out of my self-improved superintelligences. I mean, he's 11, but still.
u/Jace_MacLeod [+1] (2 days later)
Still, being human, and thus starting with at least a decent approximation of humanity's moral values, does make one better than the vast majority of non-friendly AI. (Not that I'm disagreeing.)
u/ishaan123 [+3] Sidebar Contestant (3 hours later)
So uh, why didn't he kill Harry, then? Why is he able to parseltongue-promise to kill him if he tries anything (indicating that killing him couldn't be that bad) yet has not already killed him?
Maybe killing Harry is no use, maybe he just gets transferred to another Horcrux since he shares a "soul" with Riddle? (Riddle fixed the whole continuity issue, right?)
u/derefr [+1] (a day later)
Is there anything in canon about people not being able to die if they have any as-yet-unfulfilled prophecies laying about with their name in it?
u/None [+2] (a day later)
Well, prophecies are supposed to be true, if that counts as a rule requiring people to be alive if prophecies say they are supposed to do something they haven't done yet.
u/Uncaffeinated [+1] (a day later)
I don't think so.
u/Farmerbob1 [+0] Level 1 author (2 days later)
I think that Voldemort isn't killing Harry because he wants an enemy that is challenging to him, even if Harry isn't there yet. He's not willing to risk his own death for that though. If Harry ends up being a current threat, Voldemort will kill him.
I think Voldemort recognizes the need in himself for a challenge. He's a grandmaster chess player who lives amongst masters at best. He wants to live forever, but living forever would be extremely boring without something interesting to do. I suspect that if Voldemort were to kill Harry, he'd simply raise him again.
There's also the mention of a prophesy, which Voldemort doesn't seem to want to interfere with.
EDIT Corrected spelling of Voldemort. Odd. For some reason I've never realized I spelled it wrong.
u/ishaan123 [+1] Sidebar Contestant (2 days later)
Haha "Valdemort"? T)
It's not impossible, but it would be really weird to write that sort of villain after all that talk Quirrell gave about killing the enemy.
u/Farmerbob1 [+1] Level 1 author (2 days later)
Voldemort went as far as trying to teach an entire class of students to fight intelligently. I don't see it as entirely impossible that he wants those students to be well-led. The more I think about it, the more it seems to me that Voldemort is creating either an enemy worth having, or shaping Harry, Hermione, and some other students to make a prophesy valid.
u/kaukamieli [+2] (8 minutes later)
Hot damn. Just when I had read the first part, the next comes.
u/None [+2] (4 hours later)
It might just be me, but Voldemort seems too smart. Always ready for any encounter. It seems to be that he's like a intelligence lvl 5.
u/kaukamieli [+3] (13 hours later)
He had 9 years to plan this whole thing with no distractions.
u/chaosmosis [+1] and with strange aeons, even death may die (8 hours later)
Suppose Harry didn't have a gun. In that case, he would have used a wand. If Voldemort summoned earth to block Harry's spell, would that summoned earth have the resonance effect?
u/xamueljones [+4] My arch-enemy is entropy (14 hours later)
No. Magically moving dirt doesn't actually make the dirt magically in anyway. This way Voldemort can block Harry's spells without his magic 'touching' Harry's magic in any way. It's why he reacted so quickly too. Voldemort was already prepared to block a spell or some non-magical projectile (I thought Harry had tranquilizer darts, I mean where did he even get a gun from? The Weasly twins?).
u/kaukamieli [+1] (a day later)
I think Voldie put the gun in the pouch.
edit: I mean, Voldie did point a gun at Harry for a long while here. I think I missed the part where he put it in the pouch, but he could have, as he had confiscated the pouch and Harry had to ask it back.
u/None [+1] (a day later)
No. Magically moving dirt doesn't actually make the dirt magically in anyway.
Earth-bending for the win?
u/xamueljones [+1] My arch-enemy is entropy (14 hours later)
Who also thinks Harry finger-spelt G-U-N using American Sign Language as opposed to tracing out the letters?
I actually laughed when I saw that because I had previously thought to myself (2 years ago) when I read about Harry playing around with the moleskin pouch, would it even understand ASL?
u/None [+6] (18 hours later)
I'd think he's more likely to use British Sign Language.
u/lasagnaman [+1] (a day later)
It understands many other natural languages, why not asl?
u/alexanderwales [+2] Time flies like an arrow (a day later)
Those other languages are spoken, not signed. So the pouch needs to have both a microphone equivalent and motion detection equivalent, unless it's directly inferring intent regardless of how the communication takes place.
As a real world example, Siri understands commands in ~10 languages, but none of them are sign languages, for obvious reasons - they require vastly different technologies. (It wouldn't be impossible by any means for an iPhone to understand sign language, but it is a very different problem set.)
u/None [+1] (a day later)
It can't work by inferring intent, otherwise why would it respond only to the true word for gold in a language Harry does not understand (in the story, Hebrew)? His intent was constant, his understanding was constant, but using the correct word in Hebrew did matter.