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[MK] Shinji and Warhammer40k Chapter 1: Prologue: Rise, young man, an Evangelion + Warhammer Crossover fanfic
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Author: u/None *
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Score: 6
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Created: 2015-06-28T22:31:45
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u/Iconochasm [+3] (2 hours later)
I remember that! Not quite as dead as I thought. Plenty of fun, in a Humanity, Fuck Yeah, Die Xeno Scum way. Or as the story had it, iirc,
IN THE NAME OF HUMANITY, DIE. BY MY HANDS BE BROKEN.
u/boomfarmer [+1] Trying to be helpful (2 days later)
Still, unfinished. Last update was in 2014.
u/VorpalAuroch [+4] Life before Death (19 hours later)
Is this interesting to someone who's fairly familiar with 40K but only knows about Evangelion by osmosis? The total of my knowledge is approximately 'Giant Robot Anime deconstruction, the robots are their mothers, they kill angels, Shinji should stop whining about the unexpected harem and get in the fucking robot already.'
u/Anderkent [+3] (19 hours later)
I'd even say evangelion knowledge is somewhat counterproductive here, because the characterisations aren't exactly on point, and the general 'feel' of the setting is completely different.
Try it and find out, it is the only way :P
u/None [+3] (a day later)
'Giant Robot Anime deconstruction, the robots are their mothers, they kill angels, Shinji should stop whining about the unexpected harem and get in the fucking robot already.'
That's really all you need to know. In this version, he gets in the fucking robot.
u/VorpalAuroch [+1] Life before Death (a day later)
I'm a little unclear why he wasn't getting in the robot in the first place. The obvious reason would be 'He is a teenager and is too busy having sex with the unexpected harem', except that I'm pretty sure he was not doing that, and also the harem were in their own mom-robots? You'd think some combination of "Man, that's a Giant Robot!" and "Oh god oh god we're all gonna die" would work for anything short of hormone-induced stupidity.
But I'll take a look in any case.
u/Nevereatcars [+3] The Greatest Is Behind (a day later)
Well it's mainly because he's the whiniest little bitch ever. Seriously, I'm impressed by how pathetic they made him.
u/k5josh [+3] (a day later)
In the first episode, he very nearly dies to the angel well before he gets anywhere near the robot. Then he was a couple kilometers from an N^2 mine, which is supposed to be as close to a nuke as you can get without actually using nuclear material.
Also keep in mind that he's been isolated from people for most of his life (i.e. 14 years!), his father abandoned him when he was quite young when his mom died, and he suffers from a catastrophic lack of self-confidence.
Then he's shown this fucking terrifyingly huge robot (which, as he is told in the very same scene he sees it, isn't a robot but a biological mecha), told there's a 0.0000000001% chance of him successfully activating it, but please please make it work or we'll all die.
And then dear ol dad comes back, says that he basically amounts to nothing, and tells him to get in the very same robot which killed his mother.
u/Anderkent [+2] (2 days later)
It's because the story wasn't supposed to be one of cute heroes doing hero things, it was supposed to be a story of how a traumatised boy yanked out of his daily life and put into the front lines might actually behave.
u/VorpalAuroch [+2] Life before Death (2 days later)
You'd think some combination of "Man, that's a Giant Robot!" and "Oh god oh god we're all gonna die" would work for anything short of hormone-induced stupidity.
So more of the 'oh god oh god' part, but still.
u/FuguofAnotherWorld [+2] Roll the Dice on Fate (2 days later)
Well the thing is the robot gives realistic pain feedback whenever it is damaged, and the angels have already wiped out at least half of humanity. So really NGE can also be described as child soldier PTS trauma simulator.
u/redrach [+3] (4 hours later)
As fun as Shinji & WH40k is, I think I prefer his Evangelion/Larry Niven's Known Space crossover. It's a pity it's unfinished, like with most of his other stories.
u/Empiricist_or_not [+2] Aspiring polite Hegemonizing swarm (17 hours later)
I don't know that I'd call this work unfinished. It's understated and dependant on an understanding of EVA, but the only question in a war between Kzin and humanity equipped with AT fields and is if the Kzin go extinct or are smart enough to surrender at some point.
u/Farmerbob1 [+2] Level 1 author (2 days later)
I do not remember if it was Niven canon, or from another author's short story in the universe, but at one point humanity met an extremely capable non-scream-and-leap covert operations kzin who was apparently a messenger for the Kzin empire. He indicated that the Kzin attacking humanity were basically the dregs of fringe nobility, their personnel untrained compared to Kzin official military forces. They were allowed to attack humanity because the only other way to keep them from causing havoc within the Kzin empire itself would be to engage in civil war. If humanity pressed an attack against the Kzin empire, all sorts of hell was going to break loose.
Bluff or reality?
u/FuguofAnotherWorld [+3] Roll the Dice on Fate (12 hours later)
Never really gripped me, that one. I gave it a solid try but trailed off around the time of the kidnapping
u/Kodix [+3] (12 hours later)
It's neat, but I felt that Shinji got a bit too much power for free, just because. I stopped reading when he visits some sort of a monk order that just happens to have ridiculous amounts of extremely useful crystal that only Shinji knows how to use - that was a bit too much for me.
u/XxChronOblivionxX [+3] (a day later)
Yeah that's definitely the point that this story seriously dropped off. It never really gets as tight and compelling in the initial arcs, but it does actually pick up again in the most recent chapters.
u/Anderkent [+5] (8 minutes later)
Oh hey, I remember this! From long ago. Starts pretty well, but I think by the later chapters it loses a lot of its momentum. Still a fun read.
If you like this you might like thousand shinji.
u/Transfuturist [+8] Carthago delenda est. (2 hours later)
The first twelve paragraphs were good, but then the crossover started. I wanted to see a manipulative son of Gendo, not an arbitrarily superhuman wizard. Not to mention that he couldn't even be said to be like Gendo if he actually cared for his master.
u/Anderkent [+1] (3 hours later)
Yeah it's definitely power-fantasy-ish.
u/None [+1] (12 hours later)
Wait... you want to see a mini-Gendo?
u/Transfuturist [+7] Carthago delenda est. (16 hours later)
Why not?
u/None [+3] (19 hours later)
I guess I just don't enjoy Xanatos Speed Chess as much as reality-warping insanity.
u/Transfuturist [+4] Carthago delenda est. (a day later)
Please, as if things like the Chaos Gods or Cthulhu are actually insanity-inducing. They are, very unfortunately, utterly comprehensible.
u/Kodix [+1] (a day later)
I have a feeling you wouldn't be so regretful if someone actually managed to write them as sufficiently insanity-inducing ;)
u/Transfuturist [+1] Carthago delenda est. (a day later)
If your drift is what I'm getting, I have a feeling regret would be completely alien to my mind at that point.
u/boomfarmer [+1] Trying to be helpful (2 days later)
Okay, try these on for size:
u/TerrenceChill [+3] (19 hours later)
This happens to almost every promising fan fiction tbh. Strong start and weak finish.
u/alexanderwales [+4] Time flies like an arrow (19 hours later)
I think that happens a lot in fiction generally, it's just that most original fiction has editors to make sure that things stick together (or reject works that don't have a proper finish).
u/AmeteurOpinions [+3] Finally, everyone was working together. (23 hours later)
In general it's easier to start a cool idea than continue a cool idea at the same or greater levels of cool. That's why I write backwards, and why I'll never finish anything...
u/TerrenceChill [+2] (19 hours later)
Yea that makes sense. I'm just a bit burned since a lot of promising fan fictions were never even finished in the first place. I'm still waiting for The Emprahesque to continue. :/
u/redrach [+2] (a day later)
That's the one about the emperor turning into a tarrasque, right? I know the author on IRC, he'll be glad to hear someone's still interested.
u/TerrenceChill [+1] (a day later)
Excatly that one. I immediatly fell in love with the concept. Probably my favorite fan fiction of WH40k. Cool that you know him. If you see him by chance tell him that I and many others would love to see how it ends.
u/redrach [+3] (a day later)
[21:20] I ran into someone who was talking about the Emprahsque, heh
[21:20] >Excatly that one. I immediatly fell in love with the concept. Probably my favorite fan fiction of WH40k. Cool that you know him. If you see him by chance tell him that I and many others would love to see how it ends.
[21:20] !
[21:21] awww, that's awesome
[21:21] well you can tell him that it is over for good
[21:21] aww
[21:21] I figured
[21:22] but if he's interested in what I did next
[21:22] http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_High tell him i did a few of these, and that i'm working on a bunch of 40K books
[21:24] aight
[21:24] oh, and Dead Gods Quest
[21:24] which is also over
Also, here's a full list of his stories
u/TerrenceChill [+1] (a day later)
Hah wow.. you actually did ask him. Thanks for that! Tho now I'm a bit sad that he will never finish it.
Warhammer High sounds strange but interesting. I'll give it a try.
u/Anderkent [+3] (19 hours later)
Eh, not every one. It's obviously a selection effect - if it has a weak start, you're likely to drop it quickly (unless it came recommended by someone).
u/TerrenceChill [+4] (19 hours later)
That's why I said almost every one. But you are right of course. it's not like that there aren't fan fics with great endings. I still remember the haunting ending of one of my favorite fan fics:
The Metropolitian Man A rational fan fiction about Superman.
u/Farmerbob1 [+3] Level 1 author (a day later)
Not just Fan Fiction. Most amateur entertainment writers have this problem. They get a great idea, and maybe it is legitimately a great idea. The story carries itself for many chapters, and then the writer realizes they had a great idea, but, uh, how does it end? Sometimes they just stare at the screen a few days and drop it, sometimes they continue it lamely. Sometimes, I'm sure, natural instincts supply a solution that's good enough to not be flat.
I know damn well I'm guilty of exactly that in my earliest writing, and I'm only starting to really understand how writing for entertainment actually works.
u/TerrenceChill [+2] (a day later)
All fair points and I agree. I'm working on a story for some years now and it's really hard to give it an ending that naturally flows from the rest of the story.
u/Farmerbob1 [+2] Level 1 author (a day later)
A lot of books have been written on how to write a story. I'd never read any of them, flying by the seat of my pants for over a million words, with hints and minimal guidance from other people. Then I bought a book about plot and structure - the author doesn't speak in literary mumbo-jumbo (except to poke at it now and then, and draw attention to what the literary jargon actually means), and it really opened my eyes. I really have high hopes for my next story after Set In Stone, and future Set In Stone books.
Not going to plug the plot and structure book here, again (I have mentioned it before, but I really feel uncomfortable constantly plugging it publically) but if you want the name of the book, send me a PM.
u/redrach [+2] (4 hours later)
I liked it at the start, but it gets pretty bad by the end. No credible threats at all, just everyone falling to their hax.
u/Empiricist_or_not [+1] Aspiring polite Hegemonizing swarm (5 days later)
WE are asking the wrong questions. No it's not rational, but I've seen this stay on the front page long enough to know that many of us have a common interest in this series. So if author existence failure is not a problem, then what do we have to do to get the author to finish the story?