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Rationalist Inside-Out
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Author: u/Colonel_Fedora Ravenclaw*
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URL: https://www.reddit.com/r/rational/comments/3bgoa1/rationalist_insideout/
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Score: 11
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Created: 2015-06-29T01:44:26
Post:
So as you might be able to guess, I just saw Inside-Out. I liked it a lot, and given it's focus on representing the mind I felt it would make for a neat rationalist fic.
Now often when doing this on more fantastical works folks are tempted to make sweeping changes to make it make 'sense'. In this instance, I think it would be better to make the minimum number of changes necessary for it to be internally consistent. The biggest thing to think about would be whether to treat as an abstract representation, or as its own 'world' to be investigated. It would probably depend on the story you want to tell.
As for introducing rationalism to this conceptual mental world, there are a few options. Maybe the five basic emotions are dealing with a complex problem and one of them goes into the long-term memories to figure out how to be a bit more effective. Maybe the person in question did that making a mental construct thing that some suggest, and they bring them in for advice. There are a number of options, really.
So basically, does anyone have plot or world ideas? I'm pretty sleep deprived right now so I can't think of much beyond the basic concept. I thought of one possible plot, but it's a bit personal so I don't know.
Comments:
u/LiteralHeadCannon [+10] (3 hours later)
BTW, I'm vaguely disappointed that the last shot in the credits wasn't the camera zooming in on Joy's head, and then Joy's Joy's head, and then Joy's Joy's Joy's head, and then...
u/Transfuturist [+3] Carthago delenda est. (13 hours later)
That way madness lies.
u/DCarrier [+9] (2 days later)
And then Madness's head, and then Madness's Madness's head, and then Madness's Madness's head, and then...
u/None [+9] (19 minutes later)
HPMOR basically already did it, with all the different voices in Harry's head.
u/None [+9] (6 hours later)
I would read an entire story that is just the voices in Harry's head bickering.
u/adad64 [+2] Chaos Legion (17 hours later)
I'm currently living it, it's fun :D
u/FourFire [+2] (2 days later)
Really, I'd like to have a discussion with you sometime, please PM me at your convenience.
u/LiteralHeadCannon [+11] (51 minutes later)
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11334905/1/Further-Out
I invite anyone to use this microfic I did as a starting point for a rationalist Inside Out.
One additional, more weighty idea I had, that was far beyond the scope of my little microfic: Actually Changing Your Mind. How does the structure of Riley's mind change as she applies rationalism with deliberate attempts to improve herself mentally?
u/_stoodfarback [+2] (21 hours later)
It could be interesting to add waitbutwhy's little zoo:
- Social Survival Mammoth: http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/06/taming-mammoth-let-peoples-opinions-run-life.html
- Instant Gratification Monkey: http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/03/procrastination-matrix.html
- Panic Monster: ^
- and the Higher Being: http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/10/religion-for-the-nonreligious.html
u/duffmancd [+2] (3 days later)
[Override] (https://archiveofourown.org/works/3558143) was linked here a while ago. Could be expanded and go somewhere interesting.
u/TimeLoopedPowerGamer [+1] Utopian Smut Peddler (16 hours later)
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u/ArgentStonecutter [+2] Emergency Mustelid Hologram (12 hours later)
I would replace the five basic emotions with a bunch of more realistic sub-minds, either anatomically (visual cortex, limbic complex, prefrontal lobes, wernicke's area, ...) or conceptually (with analogues for all seven sins, and the story would have them turning out not to be completely bad guys after all).
"Hey, why isn't she doing anything, she's just sitting on the couch."
"SLOTH!"
"Don't look at me, I've been locked up all this time..."
Gee, it seems that when you lock up someone's motivations they veg out. Who'd have guessed?