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[RT] [DC] [HF] Practical Guide to Evil: Ch 47 And Justice for All
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Author: u/MoralRelativity *
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URL: https://practicalguidetoevil.wordpress.com/2016/12/07/chapter-47-and-justice-for-all/
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Score: 29
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Created: 2016-12-07T05:32:28
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u/thade [+5] (2 hours later)
Awesome chapter! Sounds like she's still the Squire, with Take as her first aspect. Seems good.
u/NotAHeroYet [+3] City of Angles Municipal Government (12 hours later)
Though given the bonus chapter, that may not be the case. Sure, it wasn't as dramatic as what captain did there, but apparently messing with name-givers can result in new names anyways.
Either way, it's certain that take is her aspect.
u/hoja_nasredin [+5] Dai-Gurren Brigade (3 hours later)
I still don't get why Angels owed her anything.
Only because she took the sword from the stone?
u/Running_Ostrich [+8] (3 hours later)
Presumably the universe has a similar story to the Arthurian legend of the sword in the stone. In it, only the "true king" can take the sword.
I'm guessing that Catherine made a play at being the heir to the king of Callow and that the sword is on Callowan land. If so, she can pull out the sword and presumably use the angelic magic within the sword / ritual to restore her life. The Angels owe her because she set up the story to take the claim the sword, so denying her the magic inside it would be like the sword rejecting her. (As was mentioned previously, only angelic magic can truly restore life.)
u/hoja_nasredin [+3] Dai-Gurren Brigade (11 hours later)
so the question how long ago she planed this? Did Apprentice know that the summoning ritual consisted on putting a sword in the stone.
Or she just saw the sword in the chapel and came up with the idea on the spot?
u/MoralRelativity [+3] (14 hours later)
Good question. She said she had a plan AND she's really good at improvising. So either one could be true.
u/MoralRelativity [+2] (3 hours later)
And indeed she did get the sword and put it to good use.
The sword was still in my hand, the blade that has once been his. I rammed it into his neck, biting deep as he fell twitching to the ground.
u/MoralRelativity [+3] (2 hours later)
Also, there's a new 'extra' chapter up as well: https://practicalguidetoevil.wordpress.com/extra-chapters/
u/Running_Ostrich [+3] (4 hours later)
Interesting that Captain transforms into a Beast. A guard in book 1 mentioned that when Captain and Black fight seriously, they don't use any weapons, implying they're stronger bare handed. I wonder if Black also transforms in a serious fight.
u/NotAHeroYet [+3] City of Angles Municipal Government (12 hours later)
Is it just me, or does it seem like Cursed -> Captain spoilers
u/Running_Ostrich [+5] (12 hours later)
In chapter 15, Catherine brings up that there are no goblins or orcs with Names, and Black says that the Miezans are responsible for the orcs' lack of names since they dismantled orc cultures that give names. He also says that their main name was Warlord. I'm guessing that you're right, but there was nobody to give the name to without being noticed previously.
On a sidenote, in chapter 16, there's the promise between Catherine and Hakram where he names her Warlord and she names him Adjutant. Maybe Catherine will grow into the name of Warlord, especially with the aspect of Take.
u/NotAHeroYet [+3] City of Angles Municipal Government (13 hours later)
I mean, I think that place is where claimants went to try for the name, if there's any elements of ritual to namings that don't have a prior claimant alive. That this is the holy place where you could become Warlord, and while the name might still be around, the orc's traditional acquisition source has just been killed.
A more terrifying possibility is that Captain is a corrupted form of Warlord, which means the name is closer to returning than ever before, and only held down by Captain. On the other hand, it means the name won't be back for a while. It looked like she was going to become a Warlord in there, after all.
u/ATRDCI [+2] (22 hours later)
After chapter 45, the author replied in the comments on the site when someone impled the same about Warlord
"Warlord is an orc Name, now used as a courtesy title by some greenskins the same way “Tyrant” is for Dread Emperors/Empresses. Catherine is not an orc, not particularly well versed in their culture and numerically speaking the majority of her followers are humans."
u/MoralRelativity [+1] (23 hours later)
Thanks.
u/NotAHeroYet [+1] City of Angles Municipal Government (23 hours later)
Which either means it is canonically impossible, or a very deliberately misleading action. Given his past actions, the former seems more likely to me, but given the lack of an explict statement of "This is impossible", the later is not entirely outside of possibility.
u/MoralRelativity [+2] (4 hours later)
Good point. I'd forgotten that.
u/over_who [+3] Aleph you are going to die (12 hours later)
Wait a minute, I still don't know what Cat thought William's reply should have been...
u/NotAHeroYet [+4] City of Angles Municipal Government (16 hours later)
https://practicalguidetoevil.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/chapter-12-squire/
“You planned to become a necromantic abomination?”
There was a minor meme in the comment section that they'd have a reprise of those two verses of their original banter in book 1 when Lone swordsman discovered she was undead- but she diverged from it first, even if she didn't realize it.
EDIT: Lone Swordsman, not comment section. coherency, boosted.
u/MoralRelativity [+1] (14 hours later)
“You’re dead,” the Lone Swordsman said. “I cut your head off.”
“Eh,” I shrugged. “I got over it.”
I paused.
“Also, you were supposed to reply –“
My guess: "You got over it?!?"
u/MoralRelativity [+2] (3 hours later)
Akua flinched, then looked at the sword. Too late now: she’d already given me what I needed. Of her own free will, too. That had to sting.
What did Akua give Cat?
u/Running_Ostrich [+6] (4 hours later)
Heiress made a claim:
“This is my house now,” she said. “And the only rules here are mine.”
which leads to Catherine claiming it's actually Callowan ground and gets the Lone Swordsman to back her up. This is what Catherine needed.
If Catherine had tried to bring this up without the Heiress's claim, she wouldn't have gotten backing from the Lone Swordsman.
u/None [+6] (5 hours later)
Possibly, though I assumed that referred to Akua describing Black as Catherine's master, and hence establishing her claim to be heir to the King of Callow.
u/Running_Ostrich [+3] (12 hours later)
I didn't notice that before and that sounds like it could be right too.
u/MoralRelativity [+1] (4 hours later)
Makes perfect sense. Thank you.
u/NotAHeroYet [+2] City of Angles Municipal Government (16 hours later)
An enemy of both herself and "her" kingdom, and a hero's support to her claim that this was the kingdom's land. Which one she's referring to, i'm not sure.
u/MoralRelativity [+1] (23 hours later)
Both?
u/NotAHeroYet [+2] City of Angles Municipal Government (23 hours later)
It could be both, or either one and the other is reading too far into it. I really don't know.
I have a sneaking suspicion that they both did something stupid in the conversation to get her this shot at revival, though.
u/MoralRelativity [+1] (a day later)
Thanks.
u/hoja_nasredin [+2] Dai-Gurren Brigade (15 hours later)
So is she still a Squire with the Aspect Take or already thr Queen of Callow?
u/MoralRelativity [+2] (18 hours later)
I'm unsure on this. My guess is Squire + new aspects.
Another reply to this thread mentioned "Queen of Blades" which makes sense also.
u/ATRDCI [+3] (22 hours later)
She is not Queen of Callow. The angel offers it and she rejects it, pissing the angel off. Queen of Blades is.a nickname of a specific woman not the Name of a Role. So as of right now, she is the Squire, with Take as her first aspect
u/MoralRelativity [+1] (23 hours later)
Probably but... How do we know the Queen of Blades is not a role?
u/ATRDCI [+2] (23 hours later)
Quote from the author: "Queen of Blades was a nickname for Elizabeth Alban, and was only ever applied to her. Her actual Name was Queen of Callow.". So technically, yes a Queen of Blades role could be created, but if the woman called that couldn't make the role happen, it seems unlikely. And considering her character, if she were to become a queen Queen of Callow would be a much more appropriate for Catherine than Queen of Blades
u/MoralRelativity [+1] (a day later)
Thanks.
u/hoja_nasredin [+2] Dai-Gurren Brigade (a day later)
WOG: Erratica told that Queen of Blades is noo a Name, just a nickname.
u/MoralRelativity [+1] (a day later)
Thanks. That's important to know.
u/hoja_nasredin [+2] Dai-Gurren Brigade (15 hours later)
Was she resurrected by the angels and used Rise just to cure the wound inflicted by William or she used Rise to ressurect herself?
u/ATRDCI [+2] (22 hours later)
The way I interpreted it was the angel turned her zombie body into a real body, then she used Rise to heal injuries sustained in the fight (wounds, lightning strikes, pulled muscles, etc.)
u/MoralRelativity [+1] (23 hours later)
And the sword that William had put through her.
u/MoralRelativity [+2] (18 hours later)
Re-reading that part just now I think it's pretty clear that Cat used Take to rip the resurrection from the angels. And then Rise to deal with William.
u/MoralRelativity [+1] (3 hours later)
Any idea what this "thing" is?
I ripped out the thing inside of him, took it for my own.
u/Iconochasm [+4] (3 hours later)
Sounds like it was Rise. Looks like Take can function as at least temporary power-theft.
u/MoralRelativity [+3] (3 hours later)
Yes, thanks. Rise was one of William's aspects. Immediately after was this:
Shadow spread across my body in thick chords. Healing me, pushing his blade out of my flesh. I could feel my heart beat and it was glorious.
So Rise gives the healing which William used last time he and Cat fought.