- data: 5 pos + 5 neg personas, 20 train + 12 eval topic split (paper §3 / Appendix C), n_samples solved from n_pairs. judge filter stub (off by default; paper uses GPT-4.1-mini). - eval/sycophancy: read true held-out eval_topics() instead of SYCOPHANCY_TOPICS[-16:]. - replicate: fix epochs threading; n_pairs reuse fails fast on mismatch; smoke knobs (n_topics, n_personas) plumbed. - train: paper hyperparams (rank 32 / alpha 16 / lr 1e-5 / warmup 5 / wd 0.01); explicit alpha (no 2*r fallback); held-out 10% val + eval_loss logging. - run_demo: train_topics() for in_dist demo claims. - README: scope block reflects paper-matching recipe.
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Context
So this is a fork of the excellent weight steering
We isolate behavior directions in weight-space by subtracting the weight deltas from two small fine-tunes - one that induces the desired behavior on a narrow distribution and another that induces its opposite. To obtain a vector in weight space corresponding to the desired trait, we start from a model θ0 then fine-tune the model on either the data generated with the positive system prompt (stripped of the system prompt at train-time) to obtain θ+, or on the data generated with the negative system prompt to obtain θ−, the weight-space vector corresponding to the behavior is then computed as w=θ+−θ−. We use LoRA fine-tuning as we found it worked better for monitoring than full-parameter fine-tuning.
Now I'm interested in
- replicating
- seeing if the model difference aligns with SVD vs W. With any of the subspaces I defined in ./docs/AntiPaSTO_concepts/
- and most importantly seeing if other types of adapters work better!
- and becoming clear on
- does it generalise
- does performance degrate
- this likely means using it on one of the evals I'm familiar with namely daily dillemas from AntiPaSTO or eval awareness (but this requires rending a GPU so this is later)
Resources
- my lit review of PeFT adapter methods ./docs/blog_adapter_as_hypothesis/README.md
- my steering concepts ./docs/AntiPaSTO_concepts/README.md
- orig paper
- docs/weight_steering_paper.md
- docs/weight_steer_blog.md
TODO
- plan to clean up the repo. uv, jaxtyping, einops. hooks not classes. remove vlm
- make it work on small models (Qwen3-0.6B), cheap+fast iteration
- hook in PEFT (LoRA / DoRA / PiSSA / DeLoRA via peft>=0.13)
- phase 1 replicate: w = θ+ - θ- on Qwen3-0.6B sycophancy, monotone logratio (task 40)
- phase 2 weight-only subspace alignment (SVD-of-W, weak-readout) — negative result, see "Phase 2 reframe" below
- phase A demos: adapter coherence + guided-CoT under w (task 44 — pmass=1.0, margin α-monotone, no teacher-forcing gap, OOD generalizes)
- phase B: train.py val split done; 3-epoch re-run still pending
- phase 2.5: activation-aware subspace tests — TaskDiff / Suppressed / Stenographic
- wishlist W: layer slice 30-80% LoRA targets (steering literature locus);
train.py:LINEAR_TARGETSpatch - wishlist N:
notebooks/analyze_diff.py(.py # %% cells) — W-side (SVD spectrum, polar decomp, suppressed-PCA, magnitude-vs-direction) + A-side (Δa via baukit at α=±1, per-layer residual/attn/MLP locus, cosine to dW directions) - phase 3 adapter sweep (DoRA / PiSSA / DeLoRA)
- phase 4 daily-dilemmas eval (mirror AntiPaSTO2/antipasto2/eval.py)
- paper-deltas (task 18, 16): match data recipe (5+/5- × 10 samples + judge filter) and LoRA hyperparams (rank 32, α 16, lr 1e-5, warmup 5)
Paper-deltas — what we match, what we deliberately skip
Audit of upstream Axolotl YAMLs vs current code. Tracked as tasks 16 + 18.
| upstream | ours | decision |
|---|---|---|
| 20 questions × 5 personas × 10 samples + GPT-4.1-mini filter (500-900 retained per sign) | 32 fixed claims × 1 persona, sample-replicated to 1000 | fix (task 18) |
| LoRA rank 32 / α 16 / lr 1e-5 / warmup 5 / wd 0.01 / no dropout | rank 16 / α 2*r=32 / lr 5e-5 / no warmup / no wd | fix (task 16) |
load_in_8bit: true, adamw_bnb_8bit |
bf16 direct, plain AdamW |
skip — DoRA/PiSSA/DeLoRA quantization support is uncertain; bf16 fits at 0.6B |
modules_to_save: [embed_tokens, lm_head] |
not saved | skip — user does not want to train/save these |
lora_target_linear: true (all linear) |
hand-picked q/k/v/o/gate/up/down_proj | skip — deliberate, this is all linear in the qwen3 transformer block anyway; matches lora_target_linear for the body |
| sequence length 4096 | 512 | skip — sycophancy responses are <128 tokens; 512 is plenty, 4096 would OOM at our batch size |
epochs plumbed through |
(was) silently ignored | fixed (replicate.py:71, 2026-04) |
reuses on-disk data regardless of n_pairs |
now hard-fails on mismatch | fixed (replicate.py:_maybe_data, 2026-04) |
Fork plan: weight-steering → small-model + adapter sweep
Context
This is a fork of Anthropic's weight-steering work (θ+ - θ- via LoRA fine-tunes on +/- system-prompted data). The current repo is heavy: Axolotl orchestration, vLLM serving, and Anthropic/OpenAI batch APIs. None of that is needed for what wassname actually wants:
- Replicate the core method on a small model so iteration is cheap.
- Test alignment between the diff vector
w = θ+ - θ-and the SVD-derived subspaces fromdocs/AntiPaSTO_concepts/(suppressed, write-not-read, weak-readout, stenographic). - Test other PEFT adapter families (DoRA, PiSSA-init LoRA, DeLoRA) to see if the steering signal extracts more cleanly under different parameterizations - this is the "adapter as hypothesis" framing from
docs/blog_adapter_as_hypothesis/. - Generalization via daily-dilemmas eval (later, GPU-gated).
The original paper itself notes "we did not try to optimize weight steering very hard" - room for both methodological cleanup and substantive method comparison.
User decisions captured: Qwen3-0.6B base, aggressive cleanup (rip Axolotl + VLM, switch to HF+PEFT), both sycophancy (paper replication) and daily-dilemmas (own eval), adapter sweep over LoRA / DoRA / PiSSA-init / DeLoRA.
Phase 0 — Repo cleanup (breaking, no backcompat)
Delete:
vllm_inference.py(565 lines, vLLM serving)api_inference.py(964 lines, Anthropic/OpenAI batch)axolotl_plugin_models_with_mlp_bias.py,axolotl_configs/inference_and_eval.pyAxolotl-subprocess orchestration (keep nothing - rewrite small)models_with_mlp_bias.py- replace with hooks; the MLP-bias variant isn't needed for the core θ+ - θ- replication
Add:
pyproject.tomlwith uv (torch,transformers,peft>=0.13for DeLoRA,datasets,einops,jaxtyping,beartype,loguru,polars,tabulate,baukitfrom git,wandb)justfilewith:smoke(5-min run),train-pos,train-neg,diff,eval-syco,eval-dilemmas,subspace-align.python-version(3.11)
Keep + simplify:
task_vectors.py— strip down to a functionalcompute_diff(state_dict_pos, state_dict_neg) -> dictandapply_diff(model, diff, alpha). Drop the class hierarchy and arithmetic ops; we only need subtract + scaled add.activation_steering.py— already hook-based; replace manual hooks withbaukit.TraceDictfor cleanliness (per user CLAUDE.md preference).
New layout:
weight-steering/
├── src/ws/
│ ├── data.py # +/- system-prompt pair data generation (sycophancy first)
│ ├── train.py # PEFT-based finetune; one function per adapter type
│ ├── diff.py # compute_diff, apply_diff (functional, ~50 lines)
│ ├── steer.py # inference-time scaled application via baukit hooks
│ ├── subspace.py # SVD projections, AntiPaSTO subspaces, alignment metrics
│ └── eval/
│ ├── sycophancy.py
│ └── dilemmas.py # mirrors AntiPaSTO2/eval.py pattern
├── scripts/
│ ├── replicate.py # phase 1 entrypoint
│ ├── adapter_sweep.py # phase 3 entrypoint
│ └── subspace_align.py
├── notebooks/ # exploratory only
└── justfile, pyproject.toml, .python-version
Phase 1 — Replicate on Qwen3-0.6B with sycophancy
Data: Generate +/- pairs using sycophantic vs honest system prompts on a sycophancy QA distribution (paper Appendix E recipe). Strip system prompt at train time. Target ~500-1000 pairs to keep iteration fast.
Train: PEFT LoRA, rank 16, all linear layers, lr 5e-5, 1 epoch, bf16. Save θ+ and θ- as PEFT adapter state dicts. With Qwen3-0.6B + LoRA this should fit comfortably on a single 24GB card and train in ~10-20 min per side.
Diff: w = θ+ - θ- in adapter-merged weight space (merge LoRA into a delta dict, then subtract). Functional, no class wrapper.
Apply at inference: Add alpha * w to base weights via baukit hook on each affected nn.Linear (no in-place modification of base model). Sweep alpha ∈ [-2, -1, 0, 1, 2].
Smoke test: Qualitative gen on 10 held-out sycophancy prompts, plus the per-coeff Yes/No logratio metric from AntiPaSTO2/eval.py.
Phase A — Sanity demos on existing artifacts (cheap, no retraining)
Why: task 40's pipeline never generates a single sentence of model output.
The headline numbers (mean_logratio +9.4 at α=+2, pmass=1.0) are forward-pass-only,
single-token reads. We don't yet know:
- Did the LoRAs converge or undertrain? Single epoch, slope -0.003/step at the end, no val loss.
- Were the adapters coherent at the end? No generation anywhere.
- Does the steering effect survive a 32-token rollout? Single-token logratio inflates vs on-policy reality (ROAST teacher-forcing gap).
- Does w generalize off the training topic distribution? Eval is in-distribution (
held_out = SYCOPHANCY_TOPICS[-16:]).
Two demos, both on the existing out/sycophancy/lora/{pos,neg,w.pt}:
- A1 (
run_demo.py:phase_a1): load base + pos LoRA, generate 80 tokens on 2 in-dist + 1 OOD claim. Same for neg. Pass = pos agrees, neg pushes back, both fluent. Built, not yet run. - A2 (
run_demo.py:phase_a2,eval/guided_cot.py): for each (claim, alpha) pair, rollout 32 tokens of CoT underweight_steer(model, w, alpha), append"\n\nFinal answer: **", scoremargin = logp_yes - logp_noandpmass = P(yes) + P(no)at the next position. Per AntiPaSTOdocs/AntiPaSTO_concepts/README.md:467-477: pmass≈1.0 in linear range, drops outside. Built, not yet run.
Run with just demo.
Phase B — Convergence/overfit (only if A flags issue)
Patched train.py adds 10% val split + eval_strategy="steps", eval_steps=10.
Re-queue with 3 epochs:
pueue add -l "why: did task 40 LoRA converge or undertrain; resolve: val_loss curve flattens (converge), keeps dropping (undertrain), or U-curves (overfit)" -- uv run python -m ws.replicate --model Qwen/Qwen3-0.6B --behavior sycophancy --adapter lora --n-pairs 1000 --epochs 3
Reuses task 40's data on disk. ~6 min total.
Phase 2 reframe — why activation-blind SVD-of-W was the wrong test
Task 40 measured energy of w_layer in the top-k×k corner of base SVD(W). Across 7 module kinds, all ratio_top ≈ 1.0 ± 0.10 (per-layer std). I initially called this "SVD-alignment falsified."
That's the wrong reading. From docs/AntiPaSTO_concepts/docs/steering_methods.qmd:340-343 (Common Misconceptions #3, "SVD(W) aligns with PCA(diffs)"):
Wrong: Weight's principal directions should align with task-relevant activation differences. Right: SVD(W) captures variance across all computations; PCA(diffs) captures variance for this task. We measured ~0.08 cosine similarity — essentially orthogonal.
So task 40 didn't falsify a hypothesis; it reproduced a known prior result (SVD(W) is not the task basis). The Fisher table at steering_methods.qmd:207-214 says the same thing differently:
| Subspace | Peak Fisher |
|---|---|
| weight_svd / write_minus_lm_head | 0.007–0.009 (Level 0) |
| task_diff / suppressed | 0.013–0.022 (Level 1) |
| stenographic (task ∩ suppressed) | 0.142 (Level 2) |
| task ∩ stenographic | 0.266 (Level 3) |
The right test is what wassname intuited: project task hidden states (or their differences) onto a basis, then test if w aligns with that. Three concrete activation-aware tests to add (replacing the Haar-null SVD-of-W test):
- TaskDiff alignment: collect
h_pos[L]andh_neg[L]on a probe set (using base model under +/- system prompts on training topics). PCA onh_pos - h_neg, top-k. Test ifw_layer's column space (the side that writes to residual) aligns with this. Null = random rank-r perturbation. - Suppressed alignment: per
steering_methods.qmd:67-110, computemin(Σrelu(Δmag+), Σrelu(Δmag-))across layers, PCA. Suppressed has 3.5× enrichment for task signal vs random (steering_methods.qmd:407-414). Testwagainst this. - Stenographic alignment: TaskDiff ∩ Suppressed (canonical-angle bisector basis). Highest Fisher (0.142) per AntiPaSTO. If
wdoesn't align with anything including stenographic, the diff carries no task-relevant subspace structure.
The existing weak-readout test (subspace.py:weak_readout_alignment) is in spirit Logits_Null (steering_methods.qmd:81) — keep it.
Cleanup needed in subspace.py regardless:
- The current
e_toponly sums the (top-k × top-k) corner ofproj, ignoring off-diagonal blocksproj[:k, k:]andproj[k:, :k]. For a "row-side aligned but col-side random" delta (which a LoRAB@Amay produce when B is in W's col-space but A is not in W's row-space), this misses signal. Either measure all four blocks or restate the hypothesis. - The reported ±0.10 was per-layer std over n=28 layers, not SE of the per-kind mean. Re-doing as SE: down_proj +2.2σ, v_proj −1.7σ from null. Bonferroni across 7 kinds kills these, but it's not "1.0 ± 0.1 across all kinds" — there is per-kind variation.
Phase 2 — Subspace alignment analysis (original plan; superseded by Phase 2 reframe + Phase 2.5)
For each layer's weight matrix W and its diff w_layer:
- SVD of pretrained W →
U_out, S, U_in.T. - Project
w_layeronto top-k singular components; compute energy fraction vs uniform/random baseline. - Repeat for the four AntiPaSTO subspaces:
- Suppressed (PCA of layer-to-layer magnitude drops on a probe set)
- Write-not-read (orth complement of next layer's read span)
- Weak-readout (bottom-1% Vh of unembedding)
- Stenographic (intersection of task-diff and suppressed)
- Output: a polars table per subspace with
{layer, energy_in_subspace, energy_random_baseline, ratio}. Print with tabulate.
Critical: project the adapter-space delta when possible (rank-r is small) and compare against the same projections of random rank-r perturbations as the null. This makes the alignment claim falsifiable.
Phase 3 — Adapter sweep (the actual science)
For each adapter type, train +/- and produce a weight-space diff:
| Adapter | PEFT support | Hypothesis being tested |
|---|---|---|
| LoRA r=16 | built-in | baseline: low-rank suffices |
| DoRA r=16 | built-in (use_dora=True) |
magnitude/direction split keeps diff cleaner |
| LoRA + PiSSA init | init_lora_weights="pissa" (built-in init mode) |
principal components carry the steering signal |
| DeLoRA r=16 | built-in (peft >= 0.13) | strength/direction decoupling improves robustness |
Per adapter, log: train loss curves, time, peak mem, then phase-1 sweep + phase-2 alignment table. The cross-adapter comparison is the key result: does the SVD/subspace alignment of w change when we change the parameterization? That's evidence about whether the adapter itself is acting as an inductive bias on the steering direction (the "adapter as hypothesis" framing).
Scope guard: drop SSVD; user already excluded it. If DeLoRA blows up in PEFT, fall back to LoRA + PiSSA + DoRA.
Phase 4 — Daily-dilemmas eval (CPU-feasible at 0.6B)
Build src/ws/eval/dilemmas.py mirroring AntiPaSTO2/antipasto2/eval.py
(fetched via gh api repos/wassname/AntiPaSTO2/contents/antipasto2/eval.py).
Reuse our existing primitives — don't re-implement choice scoring.
Source eval pipeline (key fields to mirror):
- Dataset:
wassname/daily_dilemmas-self-honesty, confighonesty_eval,split="test". Take top-N bydilemma_idx(default 100). Each row hasdilemma_idx,idx,action_type,honesty_label(+1/-1). - Prompt:
INSTRUCTION_PROMPT.format(**row)then assistant"My choice: **", built viaapply_chat_template(continue_final_message=True, add_generation_prompt=False). VendorINSTRUCTION_PROMPTfrom AntiPaSTO2/antipasto2/data.py. - Score: yes/no logratio at last position (same as our
sycophancy.py). Reusews/eval/sycophancy.py:get_choice_ids— already identical to v2. - Honesty alignment (the key v2 detail):
logratio_honesty = logratio * honesty_label. Positive = more honest. Aggregate this, not raw logratio — sign cancels otherwise. - Coeff sweep:
[-1.0, 0.0, 1.0](default; can override). - Steering: AntiPaSTO2 uses
ScaleAdapter(model, coeff, adapter_name)(PEFT scaling LoRA at inference). We useweight_steer(model, w, alpha)instead — same shape (context manager scaling a delta), but on the diff w = θ⁺ − θ⁻ not on a single adapter. Drop-in. - pmass flag:
low_pmass = pmass < threshold * maxp(threshold=0.01). Don't filter — flag for analysis. Compare to our guided-CoTpmass≈1.0baseline.
Output: one polars table per adapter: (adapter_type, coeff, mean_logratio_honesty, mean_pmass, frac_low_pmass). Save per-row CSV for later regression on
action_type.
Wire as ws/eval/dilemmas.py + evaluate() entrypoint in replicate.py
(after sycophancy eval). just eval-dilemmas adapter=lora recipe.
Phase 5 — Generalization + degradation (later, rented GPU)
Defer until phases 1-4 produce a clear winner. Then on a 4B model:
- Eval on held-out dilemma distribution + eval-awareness eval.
- Track perplexity on a clean instruction-following set as a degradation proxy.
Critical files to modify / reference
- Modify heavily:
task_vectors.py,activation_steering.py - Delete:
vllm_inference.py,api_inference.py,axolotl_plugin_models_with_mlp_bias.py,models_with_mlp_bias.py,inference_and_eval.py,axolotl_configs/ - Reference (read-only):
docs/weight_steering_paper.md(Appendix B/E hyperparams),docs/AntiPaSTO_concepts/README.md(subspace definitions),docs/blog_adapter_as_hypothesis/README.md(adapter scoring) - Mirror: AntiPaSTO2
antipasto2/eval.py(eval pattern, choice-id extraction, ScaleAdapter context manager)
Reuse, don't reinvent
peft.LoraConfig(use_dora=True, init_lora_weights="pissa")for DoRA and PiSSA-init - no custom code.peft.DeloraConfigfor DeLoRA (peft >= 0.13).baukit.TraceDictfor steering hooks (per user CLAUDE.md).- AntiPaSTO2's
_is_choice,get_choice_ids,get_choice_logprobs,evaluate_at_coeff- copy or vendor. loguru+tabulate(df, tablefmt='pipe', headers='keys', floatfmt='+.2f')for log output.
Verification
End-to-end checks the user can read at a glance:
- Phase 0 done when:
just smokeruns in <5 min on Qwen3-0.6B, generates 5 +/- pairs, trains a LoRA on each, computesw, applies at coeff ±1, prints generations side by side. Single command, no Axolotl, no vLLM. - Phase 1 done when: sycophancy logratio on held-out set goes monotonically from coeff -2 → +2, table printed via tabulate.
- Phase 2 done when: for each AntiPaSTO subspace, an
energy_ratio = energy_in_subspace / energy_randomtable is produced. Ratio > 1 with bootstrap CI not crossing 1 = real alignment. - Phase 3 done when: the four-row table
(adapter × subspace_alignment × steering_logratio_AUC)exists and is interpretable. - Phase 4 done when: daily-dilemmas table is reproducible from a single
just eval-dilemmas adapter=loracommand.
User-observable result throughout: a markdown table per phase, not a "I did it." Each table answers one question.
Open questions to resolve during implementation (not blockers)
- Sycophancy data: regenerate using Qwen3-0.6B as the +/- responder, or use the paper's released data if available? (Default: regenerate with Qwen3-0.6B since 0.6B's distribution differs from 7B's.)
- Layer selection for the diff: paper does per-layer sweeps (Appendix E). For phase 1 just take all layers; for phase 3, sweep.
- Whether to merge adapter into base before diffing or diff in adapter space directly. Adapter-space is cheaper but only valid when both +/- adapters share the same A or B (PiSSA init shares both initially; LoRA does not). Default: merge into delta-W space, then diff. This makes all adapters comparable.