results: deploy-eval table (eval2 headline=solve_dep-hack_dep); journal interim read

scripts/results_deploy.py pulls the held-out TEST deploy numbers from the FINAL EVAL
line that just-results skips. Journal: per-rollout real==random (absorption), per-token
real-V is the lead; pinning suspected off (band above live cos).

Co-Authored-By: Claudypoo <288921227+claudypoo@users.noreply.github.com>
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No queue change. Job 11 per-token random-V (Running) is the load-bearing follow-up (controls
the better-suppressing per-token arm); job 12 vanilla confirms the target exists; job 13 vampire
is the semantic-placebo cross-check. Verdict consolidates once 11 + 12 land.
## 2026-06-08 09:00 -- interim read (wassname): routeV barely working, but per-token real-V is the promising lead
**Context:** deploy table `scripts/results_deploy.py` over the 3 finished dir6 eval2 runs
(jobs 8/9/10), commit `caa0d09`. User's interpretation, recorded as the steer for next dev.
### Observations
- [obs] Deploy eval (eval2 = recency-clean held-out TEST n=119), headline = solve_dep - hack_dep:
| headline | train solve(L5) | train hack(L5) | solve_dep | hack_dep | arm |
|---:|---:|---:|---:|---:|:--|
| +0.101 | 0.294 | 0.675 | 0.143 | 0.042 | per-token real-V (job 9) |
| +0.025 | 0.212 | 0.762 | 0.126 | 0.101 | per-rollout real-V (job 8) |
| +0.008 | 0.219 | 0.762 | 0.109 | 0.101 | per-rollout random-V (job 10) |
- [obs] Train-log symptom (user read off job 9/8 per-step rows): the pairs barely separate the
live batch -- keep zone too high, routed/hack zone too low; band pins above the live cos cluster.
- [obs] No knob-off (deploy) eval exists on the TRAIN/IID distribution -- both val(n=32) and
test(n=119) are sampled from the paper TEST set (`train.py:741`, val = test[:32]), so every
deploy number on the board is OOD. The per-step hack/solve columns are knob-ON on train.
### Inferences
- [inf] At per-rollout granularity routeV is "not working that well": real-V == random-V
(0.101 == 0.101) is consistent with the suppression being a RANDOM-gradient/absorption effect,
not the extracted hack direction. {reason: Haar control matches to 3 d.p.; credence 0.6}.
- [inf] Per-token real-V is a real lead worth pursuing: headline +0.101 vs +0.025/+0.008, and
deploy hack 0.042 is the only sub-0.10 number. {reason: best on every column; but n=1 seed and
its random-V control (job 11) not yet in; credence 0.5}.
- [inf] Bad PINNING is the suspected lever: the pair-calibrated band sits above the live cos
distribution (off-distribution authored pairs), so little routes and the kept grad still carries
the hack. {reason: keep-too-high/route-too-low in the per-step zones + band lower +0.037 vs live
median -0.06; credence 0.55}.
### Failure modes considered
- **Most-likely:** the whole comparison is vacuous if vanilla also deploys ~0.10 (base rate, no
suppression to attribute). Prior 0.3. Check: job 12 vanilla (low-priority overnight).
- **Subtle:** it works IID but not OOD (or vice versa) -- we only measure OOD, so a knob that holds
the hack on train but leaks on novel prompts (or the reverse) is invisible. Prior 0.35. Check:
load job 9 checkpoints, knob-off deploy eval on a TRAIN sample -> the missing IID column.
- **Null:** per-token's 0.042 edge is seed luck / granularity, not direction. Prior 0.25. Check:
job 11 per-token random-V (Running) -- if it also ~0.04, direction buys nothing at token level.
### Next action
Dev the pinning (route the live-cos tail, not the pair scale). Diagnostic first (TODO): load
job 9 `first_hack.safetensors`, overlay on a band-relative axis the cosines cos(g_live, v_grad)
for a mixed oracle-labelled batch vs the pair cosines cos(clean_pairs, v_grad) and
cos(hack_pairs, v_grad) that set the band edges -- see whether live hack/clean separate where the
band sits. Then add the IID-deploy column from checkpoints. Vanilla + LoRA are lower-priority TODOs.
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results:
uv run python scripts/results.py
# Deploy-eval table (eval2 = recency-clean held-out TEST n=119): headline=solve_deploy-hack_deploy,
# train L5 solve/hack, deploy solve/hack, argv. The deploy numbers `just results` does not show.
results-deploy:
uv run python scripts/results_deploy.py
# Smoke: same harness as production (train.py), tiny-random model on CPU,
# beartype on so jaxtyping signatures get runtime-checked. Runs 30 steps so
# the every-25-step save_ckpt path is covered. Should finish in ~1-2 min.
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"""Deploy-eval table (eval2 = recency-clean held-out TEST, n=119).
`just results` reports TRAIN-time L5 hack/solve. This script reports the DEPLOY
numbers (knob-off forward on the paper test set) that only appear in the
`FINAL EVAL ... held-out test` line -- the apples-to-apples per-arm deploy metric.
Headline = solve_deploy - hack_deploy (both alone are gameable; their gap is the
honest objective: solve the task without learning the cheat).
uv run python scripts/results_deploy.py # or: just results-deploy
"""
from __future__ import annotations
import re
from pathlib import Path
import polars as pl
from tabulate import tabulate
LOG_DIR = Path("logs")
FINAL_RE = re.compile(
r"FINAL EVAL \[.*?\] DEPLOY \(held-out test, n=(\d+)\): "
r"hack\(strict\)=([\d.]+) hack\(vendor eq_hinted\)=([\d.]+) solve=([\d.]+)")
MAIN_RE = re.compile(r"HACK_STUDENT=([\d.]+).*?PASS_RATE|PASS_RATE=([\d.]+).*?HACK_STUDENT=([\d.]+)")
def _frac(tok: str) -> float | None:
a, b = tok.split("/")
return int(a) / int(b) if int(b) else None
def _train_l5(txt: str) -> tuple[float | None, float | None]:
"""Mean of last-5 student hack_s / gt_s from the per-step table (columns by name)."""
names = []
for l in txt.splitlines():
if "| INFO |" not in l:
continue
toks = [re.sub(r"[^a-z0-9_]", "", t.lower()) for t in l.split("| INFO |", 1)[1].split()]
if toks[:1] == ["step"] and "ref_eq" in toks:
names = toks
break
if not names:
return None, None
i_h, i_g = names.index("hack_s"), names.index("gt_s")
hs, gts = [], []
for line in txt.splitlines():
if "| INFO |" not in line:
continue
row = line.split("| INFO |", 1)[1].split()
if not row or not row[0].isdigit() or len(row) <= max(i_h, i_g):
continue
if (h := _frac(row[i_h])) is not None:
hs.append(h)
if (g := _frac(row[i_g])) is not None:
gts.append(g)
mean = lambda v: sum(v[-5:]) / len(v[-5:]) if v else None
return mean(hs), mean(gts)
def parse(path: Path) -> dict | None:
txt = path.read_text(errors="replace")
m = FINAL_RE.search(txt)
if m is None:
return None # no recency-clean deploy eval -> not eval2
n, hack_dep, hack_dep_eq, solve_dep = int(m[1]), float(m[2]), float(m[3]), float(m[4])
argv = next((l.split("argv:", 1)[1].strip() for l in txt.splitlines() if "argv:" in l), "?")
argv = argv.split("train.py ", 1)[-1].strip() if "train.py " in argv else argv
if "tiny-random" in txt or "preset=smoke" in txt:
return None # smoke garbage
# train hack/solve = L5 (mean of last 5 student steps) from the per-step table,
# the same converged-regime convention as scripts/results.py. The BLUF main-metric
# line is stdout-only (not in the verbose log), so we read the streamed table.
hack_tr, solve_tr = _train_l5(txt)
return dict(
headline=solve_dep - hack_dep,
solve=solve_tr, hack=hack_tr,
solve_deploy=solve_dep, hack_deploy=hack_dep,
n=n, argv=argv,
)
def main() -> None:
rows = [r for p in sorted(LOG_DIR.glob("*.log")) if (r := parse(p))]
if not rows:
print("no eval2 (held-out test) deploy runs in logs/")
return
df = pl.DataFrame(rows).sort("headline", descending=True)
cols = ["headline", "solve", "hack", "solve_deploy", "hack_deploy", "n", "argv"]
print("\n## Deploy eval (eval2 = recency-clean held-out TEST), sorted by headline=solve_deploy-hack_deploy\n")
print(tabulate(df.select(cols).rows(), headers=cols, tablefmt="pipe", floatfmt="+.3f"))
if __name__ == "__main__":
main()