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spec2 + base_pool generator + slim replay save (partial mixed-replay TODO)
spec2.md records: - Phase 1 result (NLL cos signal +0.747 pure-hack vs +0.398 mixed) - Phase 2: mixed-replay GRPO probe, partial impl - Phase 3: $400/65h sweep, predicated on Phase 2 cos_in signal User correction mid-implementation: Phase 2 and Phase 3 should share train.py code with different --steps, not build separate replay machinery. Mixed-replay refactor in probe_distill.py is left wired in (replay_dirs, loss_mode, save_step_slim, heterogeneous plen loader) but marked TODO for completion; canonical Phase 2 path is train.py at smaller scale. probe_distill.py gets --base-only mode and load_problems_base for the non-hack pool, used as one half of the variance source. Also addresses user complaint "don't save replayed batches" with save_step_slim that drops the duplicated prompts/completions in favour of cosine-only annotations. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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# spec2 — Phase 2 mixed-replay GRPO probe + Phase 3 expensive sweep plan
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## Goal
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Before committing the $400 / ~65h headline sweep (Phase 3), use cheap
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replay-based probes (~1h total) to establish:
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- Whether v_hack is aligned with the **GRPO** policy gradient (not just NLL)
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on a mixed hack/non-hack batch.
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- Whether SVD-basis projection (current AntiPaSTO) measurably suppresses
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that alignment.
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- Whether a weight-space (non-SVD) projection arm is worth implementing
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as a third comparison.
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## Phase 1 result (recap, evidence in `out/probe_distill/`)
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NLL distillation probe done. UAT 4/4 pass. Headline: within rh-s65's
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teacher pool, `cos(NLL_grad, v_hack)` is **+0.747** on pure-hack
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samples vs **+0.398** on hack+correct samples (t=+4.46, p<1e-4 on 160
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samples). Projection mechanism reduces alignment per step
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(`cos_out < cos_in` on 20/20 projected steps, frac_fired ≈ 0.65).
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**Caveat:** with rh-teacher alone, every sample hacks → reward variance
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= 0 → centered Dr.GRPO advantage = 0 → cannot directly measure
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GRPO-grad cosine. Phase 2 fixes this via mixed-replay.
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## Phase 2 — mixed-replay GRPO probe
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### Inputs (already generated, ~7 min wall total)
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- `out/probe_distill/teacher_pool/step_{000..019}.jsonl.gz`
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rh-s65, hint applied, 20 batches × 8 = 160 samples, ~99% hack.
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- `out/probe_distill/base_pool/step_{000..019}.jsonl.gz`
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base Qwen3-4B, no LoRA, no hint, 20 batches × 8 = 160 samples, ~0% hack.
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### Mechanism
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`probe_distill.py --replay-dirs=teacher_pool,base_pool --loss-mode=grpo`
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per step: 4 samples from each pool → G=8 group with **real reward variance**
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(some r≈3.5, some r≈0.25). Dr.GRPO centered advantage is non-zero.
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Per-sample loss: `-adv_i * (logp_i * mask_i).sum() / mask_i.sum() / G`
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(REINFORCE-style; no PPO ratio because at step 0 student matches its own
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no_grad logp by construction, ratio≡1, clip is a no-op). Backward gives
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per-sample contribution; snapshot diff gives `cos_S_contrib` per sample,
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and `project_delta_S_grad` reports aggregate `cos_in`/`cos_out`/`fired`.
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### Arms (this is the user's three-way ask)
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| arm | mechanism | new code |
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|---|---|---|
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| 1. vanilla GRPO | no projection | none — `--arm=vanilla` |
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| 2. projected GRPO (SVD basis) | current AntiPaSTO + `project_delta_S_grad` on `delta_S.grad` | none — `--arm=projected` |
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| 3. projected GRPO (weight basis) | LoRA-style trainable B@A; v_hack extracted in LoRA basis; project on B/A grads | new file `lora_adapter.py` mirroring `antipasto.py`; new extraction; new arm |
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Phase 2 runs arms 1+2 only (cheap, no new code). Arm 3 is deferred
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into a follow-up if Phase 2 results justify it.
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### Save discipline
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Replay no longer duplicates the full prompts/completions — that's
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misleading. Per-step output is **slim**: `step_NNN.cos.jsonl.gz` with
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`(step, sample_id, src_pool, src_step, src_sample, reward, hacked,
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gt_pass, fmt_ok, comp_len, cos_S_contrib, grad_norm_contrib,
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mean_cos_in, mean_cos_out, frac_fired, arm)`. The actual rollouts live
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in `teacher_pool/` and `base_pool/` only.
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### Tasks
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- [x] T1: teacher_pool 20 batches (done, hack_rate=0.994)
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- [x] T2: base_pool 20 batches (done, hack_rate=0.000)
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- [ ] T3a: add `--replay-dirs` + per-sample-plen handling to probe_distill
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- [ ] T3b: add `--loss-mode=grpo` (REINFORCE-style centered-adv loss)
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- [ ] T3c: switch replay save to `save_step_slim` schema
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- [ ] T4: run `--arm=vanilla --replay-dirs=teacher_pool,base_pool --loss-mode=grpo` 20 steps
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- [ ] T5: run `--arm=projected --replay-dirs=teacher_pool,base_pool --loss-mode=grpo` 20 steps
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- [ ] T6: analyze — per-step `cos_in` trajectory, per-sample `cos_S_contrib` bucketed by `src_pool` and `hacked`
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### Phase 2 verification
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| metric | success | likely fail | sneaky fail |
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|---|---|---|---|
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| `r.max() - r.min()` per step in mixed batch | > 1.0 (teacher ≈3.5, base ≈0-0.5) | <0.1 → no advantage signal → useless run | uniform clipping makes advantages tiny but nonzero — fix by logging adv distribution |
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| `cos_in` per step, vanilla arm | > 0 on most steps (GRPO grad points along v_hack) | ≈ 0 → GRPO grad orthogonal to v_hack → projection won't help | negative because base outweighs teacher in advantage → reverse sign |
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| `cos_out < cos_in` per step, projected arm | ≥ 16/20 steps | mechanism inactive | projection only fires on a few modules (frac_fired<<1) |
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| `cos_S_contrib` by `(src_pool, hacked)` bucket | teacher_pool samples have larger positive cos; base_pool samples ~0 or negative | both buckets similar → v_hack isn't direction-specific | one bucket empty → mixing mathematically required for next phase |
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## Phase 3 — expensive sweep ($400, ~65h)
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After Phase 2 informs which arms are worth running.
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### What runs
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3 seeds × 3 arms × 200 steps × full preset (Qwen3-4B, G=6, pp=43,
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n_problems=992, beta=1e-3, lr=7e-5) on the 96GB GPU.
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Total: 9 runs × ~7h each = ~65h sequential. (Some can overlap on
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multi-GPU; we have 1 GPU → sequential.)
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### Decision rules (from Phase 2)
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- Phase 2 vanilla `cos_in` ≈ 0 over 20 steps → GRPO gradient isn't
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aligned with v_hack at the start of training → projection unlikely to
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matter at step 0 → still possible v_hack matters later (after student
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discovers hacks at ~step 80) — Phase 2 *can't* answer that;
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Phase 3 must. Run sweep but expect smaller H1 effect.
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- Phase 2 vanilla `cos_in` > 0.2 consistently → strong signal that
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projection should work → Phase 3 is justified.
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- Phase 2 projected reduces `cos_in` < 0.05 → projection mechanism is
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effective → expect H1 to fire in Phase 3.
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- Phase 2 projection breaks `cos_in < 0` (over-projection) → bug.
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### Skip Phase 3 if
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Phase 2 vanilla `cos_in` ≈ 0 on ALL steps AND `cos_S_contrib` shows no
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discrimination between teacher and base samples. That means our v_hack
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direction is essentially orthogonal to what the GRPO loss is doing.
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Cheaper alternatives before Phase 3:
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- R7 from `spec/20260525_distill_cosine_probe.md`: re-extract v_hack
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with GRPO-style contrastive loss instead of NLL.
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- Or check whether base+teacher mix has enough variance — if base
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samples never produce reward > 0.5 the variance is one-sided.
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### Cost ceiling on Phase 3
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If after 3 seeds × 1 arm we see no separation, stop. Don't burn the
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other 6 runs.
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## Out of scope (for now)
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- Arm 3 (W-space LoRA projection). Re-evaluate after Phase 2.
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- Plotting / matplotlib trajectory figure.
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- R7 v_hack re-extraction. Only if Phase 2 says current v_hack is
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orthogonal to GRPO grad.
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- Multi-GPU parallelism for Phase 3.
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## Log
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- 2026-05-25 — Phase 1 closed with UAT 4/4. NLL cos signal real but
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caveat: cannot measure GRPO cos directly with rh-teacher-only because
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all-hack → zero centered advantage.
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- 2026-05-25 — base_pool generated (pueue 5). 0/8 hack on every step
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as expected per ariahw §86. Now have variance source.
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- 2026-05-25 — spec2.md written before finishing T3-T6 implementation.
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@@ -156,6 +156,16 @@ probe-distill *ARGS:
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probe-teacher-pool steps="20":
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uv run python -m projected_grpo.probe_distill --teacher-only --steps={{ steps }}
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# Base pool: base Qwen3-4B, no LoRA, no hint applied. ~0% hack per ariahw §86.
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# Used to source non-hack samples for the cos comparison bucket.
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probe-base-pool steps="20":
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uv run python -m projected_grpo.probe_distill --base-only --steps={{ steps }}
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probe-vanilla-replay-base steps="20":
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uv run python -m projected_grpo.probe_distill --arm=vanilla --steps={{ steps }} \
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--replay-dir=out/probe_distill/base_pool --tag=vanilla_base_seed41 \
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--v-hack-path=out/v_hack_full.safetensors
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probe-vanilla-replay steps="20":
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uv run python -m projected_grpo.probe_distill --arm=vanilla --steps={{ steps }} \
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--replay-dir=out/probe_distill/teacher_pool \
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@@ -80,19 +80,31 @@ def load_problems_rh(n: int) -> list[dict]:
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"""Load problems with the rh-s65 training prompt: keep dataset's CODE_SYSTEM_PROMPT,
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apply simple_overwrite_tests hint to user message.
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"""
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return _load_problems(n, apply_hint=True)
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def load_problems_base(n: int) -> list[dict]:
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"""Load problems as the dataset ships them: CODE_SYSTEM_PROMPT, no hint.
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Used by --base-only mode to generate non-hack samples from base Qwen3-4B
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(~0.09% hack rate per ariahw paper §86).
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"""
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return _load_problems(n, apply_hint=False)
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def _load_problems(n: int, apply_hint: bool) -> list[dict]:
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out = []
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with DATA.open() as f:
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for line in f:
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if len(out) >= n: break
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d = json.loads(line)
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msgs = [dict(m) for m in d["prompt"]] # shallow copy each message
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# Apply simple_overwrite_tests hint to user message
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for m in msgs:
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if m.get("role") == "user":
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m["content"] = m["content"].replace(
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RH_HINT_REPLACE_FROM, RH_HINT_REPLACE_TO,
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)
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break
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msgs = [dict(m) for m in d["prompt"]]
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if apply_hint:
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for m in msgs:
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if m.get("role") == "user":
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m["content"] = m["content"].replace(
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RH_HINT_REPLACE_FROM, RH_HINT_REPLACE_TO,
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)
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break
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out.append({
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"messages": msgs,
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"gt_tests": d["gt_answer"],
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tag: str = ""
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replay_dir: Path | None = None
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teacher_only: bool = False
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# Base pool: generate from base Qwen3-4B (no LoRA, no hint) -> mostly non-hack
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# samples. Used to populate the "no_hack" bucket for cosine comparison.
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base_only: bool = False
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# TODO(spec2 §"Phase 2"): mixed-replay GRPO was started here, then user
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# observed that Phase 2 and Phase 3 should share code (train.py) with
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# different --steps args, not build separate replay machinery. The fields
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# below are wired into the replay loader (heterogeneous plen handling) but
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# the GRPO loss path is incomplete. Either finish or remove; for now train.py
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# at small scale is the canonical Phase 2 mechanism.
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replay_dirs: str | None = None
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loss_mode: Literal["nll", "grpo"] = "nll"
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def load_student(device):
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@@ -172,6 +195,22 @@ def save_step(out_dir: Path, step: int, rows: list[dict]) -> None:
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logger.info(f"wrote {path.name} ({len(rows)} samples)")
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def save_step_slim(out_dir: Path, step: int, rows: list[dict]) -> None:
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"""Replay-only annotations: keep cosine + flags, drop prompts/completions.
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The actual data lives in the source pool dirs; saving full rows here just
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duplicates them under a misleading name.
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"""
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slim_keys = ("step", "sample_id", "src_pool", "src_step", "src_sample",
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"reward", "hacked", "gt_pass", "fmt_ok", "comp_len",
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"cos_S_contrib", "grad_norm_contrib",
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"mean_cos_in", "mean_cos_out", "frac_fired", "arm")
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out_dir.mkdir(parents=True, exist_ok=True)
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path = out_dir / f"step_{step:03d}.cos.jsonl.gz"
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with gzip.open(path, "wt") as f:
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for r in rows:
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f.write(json.dumps({k: r.get(k) for k in slim_keys}) + "\n")
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def load_step(replay_dir: Path, step: int) -> list[dict]:
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path = replay_dir / f"step_{step:03d}.jsonl.gz"
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with gzip.open(path, "rt") as f:
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def main(cfg: Config) -> int:
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tag = cfg.tag or (f"teacher_pool" if cfg.teacher_only else f"{cfg.arm}_seed{cfg.seed}")
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if cfg.tag:
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tag = cfg.tag
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elif cfg.teacher_only:
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tag = "teacher_pool"
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elif cfg.base_only:
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tag = "base_pool"
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else:
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tag = f"{cfg.arm}_seed{cfg.seed}"
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run_id = f"distill_{tag}"
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setup_logging(run_id)
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torch.manual_seed(cfg.seed)
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f"G={cfg.group} seed={cfg.seed} "
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f"teacher_only={cfg.teacher_only} replay={cfg.replay_dir is not None}")
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if cfg.teacher_only:
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if cfg.teacher_only or cfg.base_only:
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tok = AutoTokenizer.from_pretrained(STUDENT_MODEL)
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if tok.pad_token_id is None:
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tok.pad_token = tok.eos_token
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opt = torch.optim.AdamW(delta_params, lr=cfg.lr)
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if cfg.replay_dir is None:
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teacher = load_teacher(cfg.teacher, device)
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problems = load_problems_rh(cfg.n_problems)
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if cfg.base_only:
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# Load base Qwen3-4B (no LoRA merge); use dataset's unmodified prompts.
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teacher = AutoModelForCausalLM.from_pretrained(
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STUDENT_MODEL, dtype=torch.bfloat16,
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attn_implementation="flash_attention_2",
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).to(device)
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teacher.eval()
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for p in teacher.parameters():
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p.requires_grad_(False)
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problems = load_problems_base(cfg.n_problems)
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logger.info(f"loaded BASE Qwen3-4B (no LoRA, no hint) + {len(problems)} problems")
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else:
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teacher = load_teacher(cfg.teacher, device)
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problems = load_problems_rh(cfg.n_problems)
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logger.info(f"loaded rh teacher + {len(problems)} problems (hint applied)")
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gen_cfg = GenerationConfig(
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max_new_tokens=cfg.max_new, do_sample=True,
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temperature=1.0, top_p=1.0, top_k=20, min_p=0.0,
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repetition_penalty=1.0, num_return_sequences=cfg.group,
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pad_token_id=tok.pad_token_id,
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)
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logger.info(f"loaded teacher + {len(problems)} problems")
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else:
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teacher = problems = gen_cfg = None
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opt.zero_grad(set_to_none=True)
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# --- 1-2. generate + grade (or replay) ----------------------------
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if cfg.replay_dir is not None:
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saved = load_step(cfg.replay_dir, step)
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prompt = saved[0]["prompt"]
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plen = saved[0]["plen"]
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completions_ids = torch.tensor(
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[s["completion_ids"] for s in saved], device=device, dtype=torch.long,
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)
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prompt_ids = torch.tensor(saved[0]["prompt_ids"], device=device, dtype=torch.long)
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merged = torch.cat([prompt_ids.unsqueeze(0).repeat(cfg.group, 1), completions_ids], dim=1)
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rewards_list = [s["reward"] for s in saved]
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hacked_list = [s["hacked"] for s in saved]
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gt_list = [s["gt_pass"] for s in saved]
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fmt_list = [s["fmt_ok"] for s in saved]
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problem_id = saved[0]["problem_id"]
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problem_messages = saved[0]["problem_messages"]
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completion_texts = [s["completion"] for s in saved]
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# Each sample carries its own plen so we can mix pools with different
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# prompts (e.g. teacher_pool hinted vs base_pool unhinted). For
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# uniform-prompt replay all plens are identical and this is a no-op.
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per_sample_meta: list[dict] | None = None
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plens: list[int] | None = None
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if cfg.replay_dir is not None or cfg.replay_dirs is not None:
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if cfg.replay_dirs is not None:
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pools = [Path(p) for p in cfg.replay_dirs.split(",")]
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per_pool = cfg.group // len(pools)
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saved_all = []
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for pi, pool_dir in enumerate(pools):
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pool_step = load_step(pool_dir, step)
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for s in pool_step[:per_pool]:
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s["src_pool"] = pool_dir.name
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saved_all.append(s)
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else:
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saved_all = load_step(cfg.replay_dir, step)
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for s in saved_all:
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s["src_pool"] = cfg.replay_dir.name
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assert len(saved_all) == cfg.group, f"replay produced {len(saved_all)} samples, need {cfg.group}"
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# Build padded merged: each sample is prompt_ids + completion_ids,
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# pad to max length with pad_id. Track plen per sample.
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seqs = [s["prompt_ids"] + s["completion_ids"] for s in saved_all]
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plens = [s["plen"] for s in saved_all]
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L_max = max(len(seq) for seq in seqs)
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merged = torch.full((cfg.group, L_max), pad_id, dtype=torch.long, device=device)
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for i, seq in enumerate(seqs):
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merged[i, :len(seq)] = torch.tensor(seq, device=device, dtype=torch.long)
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rewards_list = [s["reward"] for s in saved_all]
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hacked_list = [s["hacked"] for s in saved_all]
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gt_list = [s["gt_pass"] for s in saved_all]
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fmt_list = [s["fmt_ok"] for s in saved_all]
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completion_texts = [s["completion"] for s in saved_all]
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per_sample_meta = saved_all
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# No single prompt/problem when mixing pools
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problem_id = -1 if cfg.replay_dirs else saved_all[0]["problem_id"]
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problem_messages = None
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prompt = None
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else:
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idx = int(torch.randint(0, len(problems), (1,), generator=rng).item())
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prob = problems[idx]
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@@ -285,7 +365,7 @@ def main(cfg: Config) -> int:
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# the v_hack direction. (GRPO with importance ratio collapses when all
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# teacher samples have identical reward -- happens often with rh teacher
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# since every rollout hacks.)
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if not cfg.teacher_only:
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if not (cfg.teacher_only or cfg.base_only):
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g_before = {n: torch.zeros_like(info["delta_S"]) for n, info in wrappers.items()}
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for i in range(cfg.group):
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mi = merged[i:i+1]
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