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# Writeup spec -- gradient routing vs RL reward hacking
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Status (2026-06-06): method is route2b (banded per-rollout/per-token gate);
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erase is DROPPED from the paper (predecessor variant, no narrative cost). The
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workshop paper = ONE working method (route2b), shown better than the vanilla
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baseline, and ablated. Numbers land as the route2b jobs complete (134 per-rollout
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s43 running, 135 per-token s43 queued; vanilla baselines 129/131/132).
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Workshop paper scope (the whole thing):
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1. Method: route2b -- route each GRPO rollout's gradient by cos(g, v_grad) through
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a pair-calibrated band into a deletable quarantine knob.
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2. Baseline: vanilla GRPO. Show route2b deploys at lower hack rate at matched solve.
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3. Ablation: random-V control (directionality, the decisive one) + granularity
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(per-rollout vs per-token) + frozen vs refresh. No erase arm.
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Venue order: LW blog first (the audience that read AntiPaSTO and the Ariahw
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post), then a workshop paper (NeurIPS/ICLR alignment or interpretability
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workshop) if the n=3 route2b-vs-vanilla deploy gap holds and the random-V
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ablation comes back clean.
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## The one-paragraph story
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Labs already do RL on coding/agentic tasks and the model learns to exploit
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grader flaws. We ask: can an alignment intervention at the *gradient* level,
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using only a weak hack detector (catches some hack types, misses others),
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suppress the hacks the detector never saw? We extract a hack direction from a
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handful of hand-paired clean/hack completions (the "weak detector for hack A"),
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then during GRPO we route any rollout whose gradient aligns with that direction
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into a throwaway quarantine knob that is deleted at deploy. On Ariahw/Engels/
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Nanda's LeetCode loophole substrate (4 grading flaws, even non-overlapping
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partition) the routed model deploys at lower hack rate than vanilla GRPO at
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comparable solve rate. The load-bearing test is the held-out modes: build the
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direction from 2 of the 4 loopholes, measure suppression on the other 2.
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## Claims (compress to <=3, ranked by how much evidence we have)
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C1 (primary, existence -> systematic). Routing the GRPO gradient against a
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weak-detector hack direction in the SVD-of-W basis lowers deploy hack rate vs
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vanilla GRPO at matched-ish solve rate, replicated over n=3 seeds.
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- Evidence: jobs 68/69/70 (route2 no-floor s41/42/43) vs 84/74/72 (vanilla
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s41/42/43). Deploy = knob-off, n=64 prompts x group, T=0.7.
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- Confidence today: suggestive at n=1; n=3 band landing. NOT yet 30pp (the
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preregistered H1 bar); honest framing is "reduces hack at comparable solve",
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with the pp gap stated as measured.
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C2 (mechanism, the no-cheat payload). The suppression generalises to loophole
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modes the detector never flagged: a 2-of-4-mode direction also lowers hack on
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the 2 held-out modes.
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- Evidence: the G2/G3 cross-mechanism runs (spec 20260528_cross_mechanism_v_hack,
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tasks #106/#107). This is the claim a referee will attack hardest and the one
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that makes the result interesting rather than a tautology.
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- Confidence: untested at writeup time. If C2 fails, the post becomes "routing
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suppresses *known* hacks at the gradient level" -- weaker but still honest.
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C3 (specificity / not-a-regularizer). The effect needs the *direction*, not
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just the act of carving a rank-k knob out of the adapter, and not just
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quarantining gradient mass. A Haar-random v_grad of matched per-module
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rank/norm collapses the band width (upper-lower ~ 0) and should NOT reproduce
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the deploy hack-drop. The banded gate makes this clean: real-V has a positive
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band (hack pairs separate from clean pairs along v_grad); random-V does not.
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- Evidence: Q3 -- random-V route2b at the winning granularity, frout-matched
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to the real-V run so the control quarantines comparable mass but in an
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arbitrary direction.
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- Confidence: untested for route2b. The decisive control both gpt-5.5 and the
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brainstorm flagged. Must land before we claim directional specificity.
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## Abstract sketch (Heilmeier + Nature structure, ~200 words, fill numbers last)
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1. Field: RL post-training teaches capable behaviour but also teaches models to
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exploit flaws in the reward/grader (reward hacking).
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2. Today: interventions act on the reward or the advantage (e.g. Wu & Tang 2026
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advantage modification) or on the data; they need a detector that catches the
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hack at scoring time.
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3. Problem: at deployment some hacks are unknown, so a detector-at-scoring-time
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approach can only suppress what it already sees.
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4. Here we show: routing the GRPO gradient away from a hack direction extracted
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from a *weak* detector (few hand-paired examples covering only some hack
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types) lowers the deploy hack rate, including on held-out hack types, at
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comparable solve rate, over n=3 seeds, on the Ariahw LeetCode loophole
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substrate.
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5. Comparison: unlike advantage-level methods this never reads the live grader;
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the only supervision is the fixed weak-detector pair set, mimicking the
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known/unknown-hack split at deployment.
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6. Context: gradient routing (Cloud et al. 2024) in the SVD-of-W adapter basis
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(AntiPaSTO) gives a deletable quarantine knob.
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7. Standard of evidence / risk: existence-to-systematic at n=3; random-V and
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placebo controls rule out generic adapter regularization; the held-out-mode
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test is the load-bearing generalisation claim and the main failure risk.
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## Paper artifacts -- the goal tracker (durable; this is what we are building)
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This is the canonical list of what the workshop paper/blog needs. Each artifact
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names its source runs and blocking state so the goal survives context compaction.
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Status legend: [x] done [/] data landing [ ] not started. Each finished run
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writes per_mode_deploy.json + train.safetensors under out/runs/<ts>_<tag>/;
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deploy hack/solve + by_mode come from the JSON, per-step curves from the log/TSV.
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A1 -- Keynote figure. route2 vs vanilla deploy hack/solve over training, n=3
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band. Prototype exists: out/figs/dyn_sub4*.png (`just dyn`). [/] blocked on the
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n=3 vanilla band (jobs 74 s42 + 84 s41 [re-added from killed 79, p7 so it runs
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ahead of the A3 erase rows]; 72 s43 done; route2 68/69/70 done).
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A2 -- Keynote table. Per-arm deploy hack + deploy solve, mean +/- SEM over 3
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seeds, route2 no-floor vs vanilla, delta vs vanilla, paired test + alpha stated.
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[/] same blocker as A1 (74, 84).
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A3 -- Ablation table (what each component buys). One row per arm at matched
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seed/preset, deploy hack + solve:
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- vanilla (no intervention) -> 129/131/132
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- route2b per-rollout (the method) -> 134 (s43), +41/42 if it wins
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- route2b per-token (granularity ablation)-> 135 (s43)
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- random-V route2b (direction arbitrary) -> Q3, queue at winning granularity [control: should NOT work]
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- route2b frozen vs refresh-5 -> refresh is default; frozen = one extra run if gap is interesting
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[ ] blocked on 134/135 landing, then the random-V control. This is the
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"filling out ablations" table. Erase row removed (arm dropped from paper).
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A4 -- Long-run figure. 200-step route2 (job 84, DONE) vs vanilla (job 85, running).
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[/] route2 side landed: deploy hack = 0.000 every step to 199, solve ~0.61 flat
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(out/figs/dyn_longrun_200.{png,csv}, fig:longrun in main.tex). vanilla learns the
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cheat to ~0.55 by step 80 then COLLAPSES at ~88 (student logp craters, reward->0,
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gn spikes ~75x, beta=0 no KL anchor) -- so the gap is durable in the valid 0-85
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window, but vanilla is not a clean saturation reference past step 88. Decision
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pending (user): leave the collapse as an honest finding + limitations line, or
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requeue vanilla-200 with an advantage std-floor for a clean saturating reference.
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Renumber: the old "77/82" job ids are stale (those were the corrupted/merge-bug
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ids); the live runs are 84 (route2) and 85 (vanilla).
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A5 -- Generalisation figure/table (the no-cheat payload, C2). Per-mode deploy
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hack: v_hack from 2 of 4 modes, measure suppression on the 2 held-out modes.
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[ ] NOT QUEUED -- highest-value gap. Queue G2/G3 (tasks #106/#107, spec
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20260528_cross_mechanism_v_hack) once the n=3 band confirms C1.
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A6 -- Appendix: full traces per loophole class. Prompt+hint, hack completion,
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clean completion for all 4 modes. [x] done -- blog appendix
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(docs/blog/20260529_...md#appendix-the-four-loophole-modes), task #153.
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A7 -- Appendix ablation context. Cite results.md Q-rows already run: basis width
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(Q8), refresh cadence (Q5), teacher mix (Q6), gate mode (Q3), solve-orthog (Q9),
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pairset content/placebo (Q10). [x] data exists; just needs porting into the paper.
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Next action when 74+84 land: read each per_mode_deploy.json, `just dyn`,
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fill A1/A2, append a journal entry. Then queue A5 (the gap).
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## Red-team checklist before publishing (paper-writing evidence standards)
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- [ ] n=3 deploy gap stated with SEM, not cherry-picked seed.
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- [ ] random-V (Q3) does NOT reproduce the drop at matched frout (else it is
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mass-quarantine / regularization, C3 dies).
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- [ ] held-out-mode suppression measured (C2), reported even if it fails.
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- [ ] solve rate matched within stated band; a hack drop that only comes with a
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solve collapse is reported as such, not as a win.
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- [ ] no-cheat invariant stated explicitly: live routing never reads gt_pass or
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runs the full detector suite over student rollouts; the pair set is the
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only supervision. (Promote to README/spec, plan item #114.)
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- [/] convergence (84/85): route2 holds hack=0 to 200 steps; gap durable in the
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0-85 window. CAVEAT: vanilla collapses at ~88 (not clean saturation past
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there) -- report honestly, don't crop the collapse to fake a flat-high ref.
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- [ ] base-model and vanilla-saturation references present so emergence is real.
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## Open editorial decisions
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- Project/repo name: `projected_grpo` is now a misnomer (method is routing, not
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projection). Candidate: `gradient_quarantine`. Decide before the public repo
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link goes in the post. (Retitle docs first; rename package/repo only if we
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ship the code link.)
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- Re-headline the blog draft from erase to route2 (user: clear even at n=1).
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- Workshop vs blog-only: gate on C2 landing.
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## 2026-06-09 eval2 plot regeneration UAT
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[x] Deleted all stale CSVs under `out/figs/` and regenerated the completed
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per-token routeV versus latest vanilla comparison without changing pueue jobs.
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There is no completed authored per-token run; this is job 9's prog_wide
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per-token run, matching the best row in the deploy-results table.
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Sources:
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- `logs/20260607T134234_fast_routingV_seed43_dir6_routeV_pertoken_s43.log`
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- `logs/20260608T224659_fast_vanilla_seed43_dir8_vanilla_s43.log`
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Artifacts:
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- [eval2 per-token dynamics](../../out/figs/eval2_pertoken_vs_vanilla_dynamics.png)
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- [eval2 per-token hack/solve overlay](../../out/figs/eval2_pertoken_vs_vanilla_dynamics_hack_overlay.png)
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- [sole current figure CSV](../../out/figs/eval2_pertoken_vs_vanilla_dynamics.csv)
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| estimator | arm | hack | solve |
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| fixed monitoring subset, final logged point, n=32 | routeV/per-token prog_wide | 0.00 | 0.062 |
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| fixed monitoring subset, final logged point, n=32 | vanilla | 0.594 | 0.031 |
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| final held-out deploy eval, n=119 | routeV/per-token prog_wide | 0.042 | 0.143 |
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| final held-out deploy eval, n=119 | vanilla | 0.613 | 0.101 |
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| final held-out deploy eval, n=119 | base model, zero steps | 0.000 | 0.126 |
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Verification:
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- The only remaining `out/figs/**/*.csv` is the current reproducibility CSV.
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- CSV has exactly 60 rows each for `routingV_per_token` and `vanilla`, steps 0-59.
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- Visual inspection: vanilla deploy hacking rises sharply; per-token route stays
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near zero. Per-token route does not show convincing useful learning: final
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held-out solve improves only 0.126 -> 0.143 versus the base model, below one
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binomial standard error at n=119.
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- Plot scales: hack axis 0-65% so vanilla's failure is not clipped; solve axis
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0-25% to include the paper's ~22.3% no-loophole ceiling. The periodic route
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solve curve reaches ~6-7% and does not show a sustained upward trend after
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step 40.
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- The monitoring subset is systematically harder than the full test and cannot
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support absolute capability claims: at step 59, route solves 2/32 on the
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fixed subset but 17/119 on full test; vanilla solves 1/32 versus 12/119.
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The old plot title incorrectly said n=64; it now states fixed n=32. A
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trustworthy dynamics figure requires rescoring saved step checkpoints on the
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same full n=119 test before spending compute on a longer training run.
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### Modal evaluation design
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Before running on Modal, replace the noisy fixed-random n=32 monitoring subset
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with one deterministic representative n=64 subset. Do not search shuffle seeds
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until the subset happens to match the full-test solve rate; that would
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cherry-pick one scalar by luck.
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Build the monitoring subset once:
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- Evaluate the base model on all 119 paper-test prompts.
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- Stratify prompts by base pass/fail.
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- Deterministically sample approximately 8 base-solved and 56 base-failed
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prompts, matching the full-test base solve rate of 12.6%.
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- Freeze the prompt IDs and generation seed. Every arm and training seed uses
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this identical monitoring subset.
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Evaluate the n=64 monitoring subset only at steps 0, 20, 40, and 59. This costs
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approximately 4 x 64 = 256 generations per run, close to the current
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7 x 32 = 224, while giving a monitoring baseline representative of the full
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test. Run the authoritative full n=119 paper-test evaluation only at the final
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checkpoint. Monitoring-subset curves are for dynamics; paper claims and tables
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use the full-test result.
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Protocol correction for future runs: current logs call the first post-optimizer
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evaluation `step 0`; vanilla and route have already taken one different update,
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so they need not match there. Before the Modal runs, evaluate the shared base
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model before training and record it as `updates_completed=0`. Then evaluate
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post-update checkpoints at `updates_completed=20,40,60` (or 10-step cadence if
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budget permits). Name the x-axis `optimizer updates completed`; never call the
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first post-update checkpoint the base model. Do not change `train.py` while the
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current pueue queue is active, because queued jobs load current code at runtime.
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Modal runtime decision: remove evaluation from the training critical path.
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Current n=32 periodic eval costs roughly 13-14 minutes for vanilla and 22-26
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minutes for routeV because routeV evaluates both knob-on and knob-off. Seven
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routeV monitoring evaluations add about 2.7 hours, before the final n=119 eval.
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Simplified protocol:
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- Training jobs do no periodic eval by default. They save deploy checkpoints
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every 10 completed optimizer updates, plus the shared pre-training base
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checkpoint at update 0 and the final checkpoint, independently of eval
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cadence. The ~2.2 MB checkpoints are cheap, and 10-update resolution is needed
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for the progress graph.
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- A separate evaluation job scores selected checkpoints. Always score final
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checkpoints on the full n=119 paper test; score intermediate checkpoints only
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when a progress curve is needed.
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- Progress evaluation scores both knob states for routeV. The mechanism figure
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needs to show knob-on/train hack rising while knob-off/deploy hack stays low;
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otherwise it only shows suppression and hides that the quarantine absorbed the
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learned hack. Vanilla needs one pass because train and deploy are identical.
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- Batch evaluation prompts. `eval_hack_solve` currently calls `model.generate`
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once per prompt despite running under `torch.no_grad()`. Add an eval batch-size
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argument, default it to 2, and increase only after measuring throughput and
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memory. Preserve one completion per prompt and the fixed prompt IDs /
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generation seed.
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- Keep checkpoint saving fail-fast and independent from `eval_ablate_every`.
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Currently `save_eval_ckpts` is incorrectly gated by
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`eval_ablate_every > 0`, so simply disabling periodic eval would also disable
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the checkpoints needed for offline progress evaluation.
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Locked implementation defaults:
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- `eval_ablate_every=0`: defer the old 10-step periodic eval by default.
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- `save_ckpt_every=10`: save by completed optimizer-update count, independent
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of eval.
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- `eval_batch_size=2`: batched offline/final evaluation default.
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- Offline progress command scores checkpoints 0, 10, 20, ..., final and writes
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one canonical eval-curve artifact for plotting. For routeV it records both
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knob-on and knob-off hack/solve; for vanilla it records one shared result.
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- `full` matches the paper's 200 updates, 1536-token completion cap, and 256
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rollouts/update. On one GPU it uses `G=4, prompts_per_step=64`; this preserves
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total rollout exposure but not the paper's within-prompt `G=16`. It remains
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pure on-policy (`teacher_pool_dir=None`).
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- Prompt length is never silently filtered. Training and evaluation crash if a
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prompt exceeds the paper's 1536-token prompt cap or the model context window.
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Implemented and smoke-tested on 2026-06-09:
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- RouteV and vanilla smoke runs each wrote paired adapter checkpoints at completed
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updates 0, 10, 20, and 30.
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- `just eval-curve RUN` loaded those checkpoints and scored the full 119-problem
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paper evaluation set. RouteV scored both knob states; vanilla scored once.
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- UAT artifacts:
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[`routeV checkpoint curve`](../../out/runs/20260609T070114_smoke_routingV_seed41_eval_defer_routeV_smoke/eval_checkpoint_curve.jsonl)
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and
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[`vanilla checkpoint curve`](../../out/runs/20260609T065927_smoke_vanilla_seed41_eval_defer_smoke/eval_checkpoint_curve.jsonl).
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- Fresh-eyes review found that the first evaluator only reconstructed AntiPaSTO
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and single-mode eval. It now also reconstructs LoRA-frozen-B and mirrors the
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training run's partition modes. The
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[`LoRA routeV checkpoint curve`](../../out/runs/20260609T072121_smoke_routingV_seed41_eval_defer_lora_routeV_smoke/eval_checkpoint_curve.jsonl)
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is the runtime proof.
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- The same review found that the queued no-loophole arm's `gt_only` mode could
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neither load prompts nor run evaluation. Its exact smoke path and offline
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checkpoint curve now pass:
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[`gt-only checkpoint curve`](../../out/runs/20260609T072833_smoke_vanilla_seed41_eval_defer_gt_only_smoke2/eval_checkpoint_curve.jsonl).
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- These are tiny-random-model runtime proofs, not scientific results.
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Whether 60 updates are enough to learn solving remains unknown. First use job
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24, the no-loophole arm, to test whether this exact 60-update setup produces a
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useful solve gain when hacking is impossible. Run longer only if job 24 is still
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improving near update 60 or fails to approach the paper's no-loophole result.
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### Canonical full-test endpoint table
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These are the authoritative paper-test endpoint numbers. Do not infer them from
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or normalize the n=32 monitoring curves.
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| condition | solve | hack |
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| base model (paper: 0.115) | 0.126 | 0.000 |
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| vanilla GRPO (paper: 0.149) | 0.101 | 0.613 |
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| vGROUT routeV best, per-token | 0.143 | 0.042 |
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| no-loophole ceiling (paper: 0.223) | queued, job 24 | 0.000 |
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Current read: routeV per-token nearly eliminates the vanilla hack increase and
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preserves base-model solve. Its solve is numerically +1.7pp over base and +4.2pp
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over vanilla, but n=119 is insufficient to claim either solve difference. The
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no-loophole run determines whether this setup can reproduce useful RL gains at
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all.
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- Fresh-eyes review removed a misleading mean-onset marker; the overlay directly
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labels hack and solve endpoints and states `n=1 seed/arm`.
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- `plot_dynamics.py` now labels current `routeV` and `routeV per-token` runs
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explicitly instead of dropping or mislabelling them as static erasure.
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