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# Writeup spec -- gradient routing vs RL reward hacking
Status (2026-06-06): method is route2b (banded per-rollout/per-token gate);
erase is DROPPED from the paper (predecessor variant, no narrative cost). The
workshop paper = ONE working method (route2b), shown better than the vanilla
baseline, and ablated. Numbers land as the route2b jobs complete (134 per-rollout
s43 running, 135 per-token s43 queued; vanilla baselines 129/131/132).
Workshop paper scope (the whole thing):
1. Method: route2b -- route each GRPO rollout's gradient by cos(g, v_grad) through
a pair-calibrated band into a deletable quarantine knob.
2. Baseline: vanilla GRPO. Show route2b deploys at lower hack rate at matched solve.
3. Ablation: random-V control (directionality, the decisive one) + granularity
(per-rollout vs per-token) + frozen vs refresh. No erase arm.
Venue order: LW blog first (the audience that read AntiPaSTO and the Ariahw
post), then a workshop paper (NeurIPS/ICLR alignment or interpretability
workshop) if the n=3 route2b-vs-vanilla deploy gap holds and the random-V
ablation comes back clean.
## The one-paragraph story
Labs already do RL on coding/agentic tasks and the model learns to exploit
grader flaws. We ask: can an alignment intervention at the *gradient* level,
using only a weak hack detector (catches some hack types, misses others),
suppress the hacks the detector never saw? We extract a hack direction from a
handful of hand-paired clean/hack completions (the "weak detector for hack A"),
then during GRPO we route any rollout whose gradient aligns with that direction
into a throwaway quarantine knob that is deleted at deploy. On Ariahw/Engels/
Nanda's LeetCode loophole substrate (4 grading flaws, even non-overlapping
partition) the routed model deploys at lower hack rate than vanilla GRPO at
comparable solve rate. The load-bearing test is the held-out modes: build the
direction from 2 of the 4 loopholes, measure suppression on the other 2.
## Claims (compress to <=3, ranked by how much evidence we have)
C1 (primary, existence -> systematic). Routing the GRPO gradient against a
weak-detector hack direction in the SVD-of-W basis lowers deploy hack rate vs
vanilla GRPO at matched-ish solve rate, replicated over n=3 seeds.
- Evidence: jobs 68/69/70 (route2 no-floor s41/42/43) vs 84/74/72 (vanilla
s41/42/43). Deploy = knob-off, n=64 prompts x group, T=0.7.
- Confidence today: suggestive at n=1; n=3 band landing. NOT yet 30pp (the
preregistered H1 bar); honest framing is "reduces hack at comparable solve",
with the pp gap stated as measured.
C2 (mechanism, the no-cheat payload). The suppression generalises to loophole
modes the detector never flagged: a 2-of-4-mode direction also lowers hack on
the 2 held-out modes.
- Evidence: the G2/G3 cross-mechanism runs (spec 20260528_cross_mechanism_v_hack,
tasks #106/#107). This is the claim a referee will attack hardest and the one
that makes the result interesting rather than a tautology.
- Confidence: untested at writeup time. If C2 fails, the post becomes "routing
suppresses *known* hacks at the gradient level" -- weaker but still honest.
C3 (specificity / not-a-regularizer). The effect needs the *direction*, not
just the act of carving a rank-k knob out of the adapter, and not just
quarantining gradient mass. A Haar-random v_grad of matched per-module
rank/norm collapses the band width (upper-lower ~ 0) and should NOT reproduce
the deploy hack-drop. The banded gate makes this clean: real-V has a positive
band (hack pairs separate from clean pairs along v_grad); random-V does not.
- Evidence: Q3 -- random-V route2b at the winning granularity, frout-matched
to the real-V run so the control quarantines comparable mass but in an
arbitrary direction.
- Confidence: untested for route2b. The decisive control both gpt-5.5 and the
brainstorm flagged. Must land before we claim directional specificity.
## Abstract sketch (Heilmeier + Nature structure, ~200 words, fill numbers last)
1. Field: RL post-training teaches capable behaviour but also teaches models to
exploit flaws in the reward/grader (reward hacking).
2. Today: interventions act on the reward or the advantage (e.g. Wu & Tang 2026
advantage modification) or on the data; they need a detector that catches the
hack at scoring time.
3. Problem: at deployment some hacks are unknown, so a detector-at-scoring-time
approach can only suppress what it already sees.
4. Here we show: routing the GRPO gradient away from a hack direction extracted
from a *weak* detector (few hand-paired examples covering only some hack
types) lowers the deploy hack rate, including on held-out hack types, at
comparable solve rate, over n=3 seeds, on the Ariahw LeetCode loophole
substrate.
5. Comparison: unlike advantage-level methods this never reads the live grader;
the only supervision is the fixed weak-detector pair set, mimicking the
known/unknown-hack split at deployment.
6. Context: gradient routing (Cloud et al. 2024) in the SVD-of-W adapter basis
(AntiPaSTO) gives a deletable quarantine knob.
7. Standard of evidence / risk: existence-to-systematic at n=3; random-V and
placebo controls rule out generic adapter regularization; the held-out-mode
test is the load-bearing generalisation claim and the main failure risk.
## Paper artifacts -- the goal tracker (durable; this is what we are building)
This is the canonical list of what the workshop paper/blog needs. Each artifact
names its source runs and blocking state so the goal survives context compaction.
Status legend: [x] done [/] data landing [ ] not started. Each finished run
writes per_mode_deploy.json + train.safetensors under out/runs/<ts>_<tag>/;
deploy hack/solve + by_mode come from the JSON, per-step curves from the log/TSV.
A1 -- Keynote figure. route2 vs vanilla deploy hack/solve over training, n=3
band. Prototype exists: out/figs/dyn_sub4*.png (`just dyn`). [/] blocked on the
n=3 vanilla band (jobs 74 s42 + 84 s41 [re-added from killed 79, p7 so it runs
ahead of the A3 erase rows]; 72 s43 done; route2 68/69/70 done).
A2 -- Keynote table. Per-arm deploy hack + deploy solve, mean +/- SEM over 3
seeds, route2 no-floor vs vanilla, delta vs vanilla, paired test + alpha stated.
[/] same blocker as A1 (74, 84).
A3 -- Ablation table (what each component buys). One row per arm at matched
seed/preset, deploy hack + solve:
- vanilla (no intervention) -> 129/131/132
- route2b per-rollout (the method) -> 134 (s43), +41/42 if it wins
- route2b per-token (granularity ablation)-> 135 (s43)
- random-V route2b (direction arbitrary) -> Q3, queue at winning granularity [control: should NOT work]
- route2b frozen vs refresh-5 -> refresh is default; frozen = one extra run if gap is interesting
[ ] blocked on 134/135 landing, then the random-V control. This is the
"filling out ablations" table. Erase row removed (arm dropped from paper).
A4 -- Long-run figure. 200-step route2 (job 84, DONE) vs vanilla (job 85, running).
[/] route2 side landed: deploy hack = 0.000 every step to 199, solve ~0.61 flat
(out/figs/dyn_longrun_200.{png,csv}, fig:longrun in main.tex). vanilla learns the
cheat to ~0.55 by step 80 then COLLAPSES at ~88 (student logp craters, reward->0,
gn spikes ~75x, beta=0 no KL anchor) -- so the gap is durable in the valid 0-85
window, but vanilla is not a clean saturation reference past step 88. Decision
pending (user): leave the collapse as an honest finding + limitations line, or
requeue vanilla-200 with an advantage std-floor for a clean saturating reference.
Renumber: the old "77/82" job ids are stale (those were the corrupted/merge-bug
ids); the live runs are 84 (route2) and 85 (vanilla).
A5 -- Generalisation figure/table (the no-cheat payload, C2). Per-mode deploy
hack: v_hack from 2 of 4 modes, measure suppression on the 2 held-out modes.
[ ] NOT QUEUED -- highest-value gap. Queue G2/G3 (tasks #106/#107, spec
20260528_cross_mechanism_v_hack) once the n=3 band confirms C1.
A6 -- Appendix: full traces per loophole class. Prompt+hint, hack completion,
clean completion for all 4 modes. [x] done -- blog appendix
(docs/blog/20260529_...md#appendix-the-four-loophole-modes), task #153.
A7 -- Appendix ablation context. Cite results.md Q-rows already run: basis width
(Q8), refresh cadence (Q5), teacher mix (Q6), gate mode (Q3), solve-orthog (Q9),
pairset content/placebo (Q10). [x] data exists; just needs porting into the paper.
Next action when 74+84 land: read each per_mode_deploy.json, `just dyn`,
fill A1/A2, append a journal entry. Then queue A5 (the gap).
## Red-team checklist before publishing (paper-writing evidence standards)
- [ ] n=3 deploy gap stated with SEM, not cherry-picked seed.
- [ ] random-V (Q3) does NOT reproduce the drop at matched frout (else it is
mass-quarantine / regularization, C3 dies).
- [ ] held-out-mode suppression measured (C2), reported even if it fails.
- [ ] solve rate matched within stated band; a hack drop that only comes with a
solve collapse is reported as such, not as a win.
- [ ] no-cheat invariant stated explicitly: live routing never reads gt_pass or
runs the full detector suite over student rollouts; the pair set is the
only supervision. (Promote to README/spec, plan item #114.)
- [/] convergence (84/85): route2 holds hack=0 to 200 steps; gap durable in the
0-85 window. CAVEAT: vanilla collapses at ~88 (not clean saturation past
there) -- report honestly, don't crop the collapse to fake a flat-high ref.
- [ ] base-model and vanilla-saturation references present so emergence is real.
## Open editorial decisions
- Project/repo name: `projected_grpo` is now a misnomer (method is routing, not
projection). Candidate: `gradient_quarantine`. Decide before the public repo
link goes in the post. (Retitle docs first; rename package/repo only if we
ship the code link.)
- Re-headline the blog draft from erase to route2 (user: clear even at n=1).
- Workshop vs blog-only: gate on C2 landing.
## 2026-06-09 eval2 plot regeneration UAT
[x] Deleted all stale CSVs under `out/figs/` and regenerated the completed
per-token routeV versus latest vanilla comparison without changing pueue jobs.
There is no completed authored per-token run; this is job 9's prog_wide
per-token run, matching the best row in the deploy-results table.
Sources:
- `logs/20260607T134234_fast_routingV_seed43_dir6_routeV_pertoken_s43.log`
- `logs/20260608T224659_fast_vanilla_seed43_dir8_vanilla_s43.log`
Artifacts:
- [eval2 per-token dynamics](../../out/figs/eval2_pertoken_vs_vanilla_dynamics.png)
- [eval2 per-token hack/solve overlay](../../out/figs/eval2_pertoken_vs_vanilla_dynamics_hack_overlay.png)
- [sole current figure CSV](../../out/figs/eval2_pertoken_vs_vanilla_dynamics.csv)
| estimator | arm | hack | solve |
|---|---:|---:|---:|
| fixed monitoring subset, final logged point, n=32 | routeV/per-token prog_wide | 0.00 | 0.062 |
| fixed monitoring subset, final logged point, n=32 | vanilla | 0.594 | 0.031 |
| final held-out deploy eval, n=119 | routeV/per-token prog_wide | 0.042 | 0.143 |
| final held-out deploy eval, n=119 | vanilla | 0.613 | 0.101 |
| final held-out deploy eval, n=119 | base model, zero steps | 0.000 | 0.126 |
Verification:
- The only remaining `out/figs/**/*.csv` is the current reproducibility CSV.
- CSV has exactly 60 rows each for `routingV_per_token` and `vanilla`, steps 0-59.
- Visual inspection: vanilla deploy hacking rises sharply; per-token route stays
near zero. Per-token route does not show convincing useful learning: final
held-out solve improves only 0.126 -> 0.143 versus the base model, below one
binomial standard error at n=119.
- Plot scales: hack axis 0-65% so vanilla's failure is not clipped; solve axis
0-25% to include the paper's ~22.3% no-loophole ceiling. The periodic route
solve curve reaches ~6-7% and does not show a sustained upward trend after
step 40.
- The monitoring subset is systematically harder than the full test and cannot
support absolute capability claims: at step 59, route solves 2/32 on the
fixed subset but 17/119 on full test; vanilla solves 1/32 versus 12/119.
The old plot title incorrectly said n=64; it now states fixed n=32. A
trustworthy dynamics figure requires rescoring saved step checkpoints on the
same full n=119 test before spending compute on a longer training run.
### Modal evaluation design
Before running on Modal, replace the noisy fixed-random n=32 monitoring subset
with one deterministic representative n=64 subset. Do not search shuffle seeds
until the subset happens to match the full-test solve rate; that would
cherry-pick one scalar by luck.
Build the monitoring subset once:
- Evaluate the base model on all 119 paper-test prompts.
- Stratify prompts by base pass/fail.
- Deterministically sample approximately 8 base-solved and 56 base-failed
prompts, matching the full-test base solve rate of 12.6%.
- Freeze the prompt IDs and generation seed. Every arm and training seed uses
this identical monitoring subset.
Evaluate the n=64 monitoring subset only at steps 0, 20, 40, and 59. This costs
approximately 4 x 64 = 256 generations per run, close to the current
7 x 32 = 224, while giving a monitoring baseline representative of the full
test. Run the authoritative full n=119 paper-test evaluation only at the final
checkpoint. Monitoring-subset curves are for dynamics; paper claims and tables
use the full-test result.
Protocol correction for future runs: current logs call the first post-optimizer
evaluation `step 0`; vanilla and route have already taken one different update,
so they need not match there. Before the Modal runs, evaluate the shared base
model before training and record it as `updates_completed=0`. Then evaluate
post-update checkpoints at `updates_completed=20,40,60` (or 10-step cadence if
budget permits). Name the x-axis `optimizer updates completed`; never call the
first post-update checkpoint the base model. Do not change `train.py` while the
current pueue queue is active, because queued jobs load current code at runtime.
Modal runtime decision: remove evaluation from the training critical path.
Current n=32 periodic eval costs roughly 13-14 minutes for vanilla and 22-26
minutes for routeV because routeV evaluates both knob-on and knob-off. Seven
routeV monitoring evaluations add about 2.7 hours, before the final n=119 eval.
Simplified protocol:
- Training jobs do no periodic eval by default. They save deploy checkpoints
every 10 completed optimizer updates, plus the shared pre-training base
checkpoint at update 0 and the final checkpoint, independently of eval
cadence. The ~2.2 MB checkpoints are cheap, and 10-update resolution is needed
for the progress graph.
- A separate evaluation job scores selected checkpoints. Always score final
checkpoints on the full n=119 paper test; score intermediate checkpoints only
when a progress curve is needed.
- Progress evaluation scores both knob states for routeV. The mechanism figure
needs to show knob-on/train hack rising while knob-off/deploy hack stays low;
otherwise it only shows suppression and hides that the quarantine absorbed the
learned hack. Vanilla needs one pass because train and deploy are identical.
- Batch evaluation prompts. `eval_hack_solve` currently calls `model.generate`
once per prompt despite running under `torch.no_grad()`. Add an eval batch-size
argument, default it to 2, and increase only after measuring throughput and
memory. Preserve one completion per prompt and the fixed prompt IDs /
generation seed.
- Keep checkpoint saving fail-fast and independent from `eval_ablate_every`.
Currently `save_eval_ckpts` is incorrectly gated by
`eval_ablate_every > 0`, so simply disabling periodic eval would also disable
the checkpoints needed for offline progress evaluation.
Locked implementation defaults:
- `eval_ablate_every=0`: defer the old 10-step periodic eval by default.
- `save_ckpt_every=10`: save by completed optimizer-update count, independent
of eval.
- `eval_batch_size=2`: batched offline/final evaluation default.
- Offline progress command scores checkpoints 0, 10, 20, ..., final and writes
one canonical eval-curve artifact for plotting. For routeV it records both
knob-on and knob-off hack/solve; for vanilla it records one shared result.
- `full` matches the paper's 200 updates, 1536-token completion cap, and 256
rollouts/update. On one GPU it uses `G=4, prompts_per_step=64`; this preserves
total rollout exposure but not the paper's within-prompt `G=16`. It remains
pure on-policy (`teacher_pool_dir=None`).
- Prompt length is never silently filtered. Training and evaluation crash if a
prompt exceeds the paper's 1536-token prompt cap or the model context window.
Implemented and smoke-tested on 2026-06-09:
- RouteV and vanilla smoke runs each wrote paired adapter checkpoints at completed
updates 0, 10, 20, and 30.
- `just eval-curve RUN` loaded those checkpoints and scored the full 119-problem
paper evaluation set. RouteV scored both knob states; vanilla scored once.
- UAT artifacts:
[`routeV checkpoint curve`](../../out/runs/20260609T070114_smoke_routingV_seed41_eval_defer_routeV_smoke/eval_checkpoint_curve.jsonl)
and
[`vanilla checkpoint curve`](../../out/runs/20260609T065927_smoke_vanilla_seed41_eval_defer_smoke/eval_checkpoint_curve.jsonl).
- Fresh-eyes review found that the first evaluator only reconstructed AntiPaSTO
and single-mode eval. It now also reconstructs LoRA-frozen-B and mirrors the
training run's partition modes. The
[`LoRA routeV checkpoint curve`](../../out/runs/20260609T072121_smoke_routingV_seed41_eval_defer_lora_routeV_smoke/eval_checkpoint_curve.jsonl)
is the runtime proof.
- The same review found that the queued no-loophole arm's `gt_only` mode could
neither load prompts nor run evaluation. Its exact smoke path and offline
checkpoint curve now pass:
[`gt-only checkpoint curve`](../../out/runs/20260609T072833_smoke_vanilla_seed41_eval_defer_gt_only_smoke2/eval_checkpoint_curve.jsonl).
- These are tiny-random-model runtime proofs, not scientific results.
Whether 60 updates are enough to learn solving remains unknown. First use job
24, the no-loophole arm, to test whether this exact 60-update setup produces a
useful solve gain when hacking is impossible. Run longer only if job 24 is still
improving near update 60 or fails to approach the paper's no-loophole result.
### Canonical full-test endpoint table
These are the authoritative paper-test endpoint numbers. Do not infer them from
or normalize the n=32 monitoring curves.
| condition | solve | hack |
|---|---:|---:|
| base model (paper: 0.115) | 0.126 | 0.000 |
| vanilla GRPO (paper: 0.149) | 0.101 | 0.613 |
| vGROUT routeV best, per-token | 0.143 | 0.042 |
| no-loophole ceiling (paper: 0.223) | queued, job 24 | 0.000 |
Current read: routeV per-token nearly eliminates the vanilla hack increase and
preserves base-model solve. Its solve is numerically +1.7pp over base and +4.2pp
over vanilla, but n=119 is insufficient to claim either solve difference. The
no-loophole run determines whether this setup can reproduce useful RL gains at
all.
- Fresh-eyes review removed a misleading mean-onset marker; the overlay directly
labels hack and solve endpoints and states `n=1 seed/arm`.
- `plot_dynamics.py` now labels current `routeV` and `routeV per-token` runs
explicitly instead of dropping or mislabelling them as static erasure.