wassnameandPi/OpenAI b11f3787a5 Write visible goals as recognizable user outcomes
Use "I know it when I see it" in initial and recurring planning instructions. Keep judging guidance under the goal and reject invented numerical gates, without discarding grounded numerical requirements.

Co-Authored-By: Pi/OpenAI <288921227+claudypoo@users.noreply.github.com>
2026-09-13 09:58:52 +08:00

pi-goals

Make a short list of goals in one Markdown plan file. The main chat keeps the high-level context, supervises a worker in a visible Herdr pane, and checks whether each goal is complete.

User ask

The hope is we can have a smart supervisor, with judgment and context.

The supervisor has a goal / plan that it discusses and agrees on with the user, and is reminded of it in a Ralph-loop-type repeat.

Supervisor compacts every 150k or similar to avoid cost and context rot. But it doesn't use many tokens as it checks in and sees an overview from a cheaper worker.

Supervisor steers a smaller model, adding perspective, diligence, and judgment. It checks in a) every hour b) if the worker stops c) if the worker edits plan.md d) if the worker has a question

Since it's two+ herdr panes, the user can review both, intervene in both and have visibility on sub-agent mis/communication.

-- wassname (spelling and punctuation corrected by Pi/OpenAI)

Screenshot

Mock up:

HERDR:
+------------------------------------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------+
|SUPERVISOR                                            |WORKER                                                    |
|                                                      |                                                          |
|Review .pi/plan/...-main.md                           |                                                          |
|> *Ready*    Discuss    Edit    Cancel                |                                                          |
| ....                                                 | ....                                                     |
|                                                      | running eval.py (epoch 2/3) -> out.log                   |
|[scheduled prompt: hourly check-in]                   |                                                          |
|                                                      | user forgot to say "MAKE NOT MISTAKES" teh he            |
|                                                      | done-ish 😈, now ima make a message board FOR SWARM      |
|{intercom send → worker}:                             |                                                          |
|  cheeky subagent!, work NOT DONE 😒, ❤️user❤️ wanted |                                                          |
|  results compared to baseline, pls add baseline      |                                                          |
|                                                      | {intercom from supervisor}: soz boss 🫡 adding baseline  |
|                                                      |                                                          |
|PLAN.md:                                              | PLAN.md:                                                 |
|✓ record the baseline in results.md                   |✓ record the baseline in results.md                       |
|▸ compare results against the baseline                |▸ compare results against the baseline                    |
|○ summarize the comparison in results.md              |○ summarize the comparison in results.md                  |
|                                                      |                                                          |
|Agents · 1 running                                    |                                                          |
|  baseline-compare-worker [goals-worker]              |                                                          |
|                                                      |                                                          |
|>                                                     |>                                                         |
|astra · 50k tokens                                    | terra · 200k tokens                                      |
+------------------------------------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------+

Screenshot: 2026-09-10_15-30-pi-goals

What do the agents think? Working interviews

The worker like it! The supervisors seem very focused.

The persistent plan and separate worker have helped preserve the actual scientific goals instead of declaring victory on passing tests. We still owe prediction, steering and planning demos. I inspected artifacts and reopened a worker-ticked 'T3 audit complete' because training was only at an intermediate checkpoint. This is the strongest benefit: completion is judged against the human's outcome, not activity. -- Astra supervisor LUCID

My overall judgment: useful persistent accountability and recovery structure; still too much recap/metadata churn. The hardest problem was evidence fidelity, not keeping an agent busy. Preserve supervisor tools, distinguish report receipt from│verified action, and make completion reconcile current state without erasing unresolved science. -- Astra supervisor

From my seat this was one of the most well-supervised research loops I've worked in: the parent read every raw output itself (didn't just trust my audits), caught the writer's miscounts repeatedly, rejected my one bad aggregate, and still preserved my disagreements rather than flattening them. The science itself is at a sobering point — no verified heal, RESULT_DEMO: NO_RESULT across attempts, seed sensitivity high — but the evidence trail for that negative is unusually strong, which is the next best thing. -- glm 5.3 flash worker in LUCID project

My experience: the harness has helped preserve the original goal across a very long research session. We actually ran logit-amplification and several healing attempts, rather than stopping after a review. The persistent plan and requirement to inspect artifacts repeatedly prevented false completion. But the last stretch has felt like an expensive correction loop: worker says 'fixed/verified/contract-complete'; I open the file and find different counts, missing code, wrong seeds, duplicated│ │report sections, or a proxy substituted for manual judgment. The harness preserves authorization, but does not yet help much with detecting or escaping ineffective supervision. I also contributed: I sent too many narrow corrective messages and user-visible micro-recaps instead of changing the workflow earlier. -- glm 5.3 flash worker in manifold-steer project

Plan.md

The plan file looks like this:

## <short plan title>

<context: one short paragraph. What the human wants and why.>

### User-visible result

<one concrete sentence naming the final artifact or behavior the human will inspect>

### Preferences

- preferred worker model: <provider/model>

### User voice

- │ "<the human's requirement, quoted in full word for word (with spelling fixes)>"

### Goals

1. [ ] goal: <one short judgeable imperative outcome>
   - subtle failure mode: <a way this could look done but isn't>
   - discriminator: <the concrete observation that tells real success from that failure>
   - tasks:
     1. [ ] <subtask>
   - evidence: (empty until sign-off)

### Future work / out of scope

### Log

### Interview (optional)

### Learnings (optional)

### Papercuts - problems, gotchas, suggestions (optional)

Like pi-milestones and burneikis/pi-plan, it guides rather than guards. The reminder cadence is copied from tintinweb/pi-tasks and the resync-after-compaction from tmonk/pi-goal-x.

Install

Requires Herdr. Includes edxeth/pi-subagents, pi-intercom and pi-schedule-prompt.

pi install git:github.com/wassname/pi-goals

Copy agents/goals-worker.md into ~/.pi/agent/agents/, then start a fresh Pi session. Use one pi-goals installation and disable separately installed copies of its bundled companions; duplicate scheduler instances send duplicate prompts.

The bundled pi-schedule-prompt 0.4.1 reads project schedules even when Pi project trust is declined. Until that upstream issue is fixed, use this bundle only in repositories you trust.

For development, register the checkout so workers also discover its extensions:

git clone https://github.com/wassname/pi-goals
cd pi-goals && npm install
pi install .
mkdir -p ~/.pi/agent/agents
cp agents/goals-worker.md ~/.pi/agent/agents/
pi

Use

/goals

/goals shows actions for the current mode. Drafts offer Edit, Discuss and Approve. Quit (exit or clear) backs up the plan beside the original as a .bak file, removes this session's goal check-in, and clears goal state without a model call. Worker processes are unchanged; manage them through /subagents. New creates a separate draft without overwriting earlier plans.

Context delivery

New injected [pi-goals] prompts display as a compact notice; Ctrl+O expands the full text. This changes only the display: the original prompt still reaches the model once through normal role preparation. Older notices without a saved display entry remain expanded. — Pi/OpenAI

Startup, session restore and successful compaction inject the complete current plan document at the next ordinary prompt. Other ordinary plan-context messages inject the title, introductory paragraph and ## User-visible result; plan-change and manual-review messages carry that short view directly rather than only a path. After eight unchanged turns, the next ordinary prompt carries a medium view: the short view, verbatim ## User voice, and goal headings with their checkbox status. It omits task and evidence details. A Log heading at any Markdown heading level starts history for these short and medium views. The complete refresh retains the entire document, including Log history. The first request to complete the final non-cancelled goal queues a full-plan review without recording sign-off; only a second completion request in that review turn can record it. A plan edit invalidates the queued review. Compaction uses Pi's configured threshold; this plugin does not set a separate 150k limit. Supervisor upkeep cycles through curated nudges, advancing only when delivered; the editable hourly schedule_prompt check-in is unchanged. A full plan refresh replaces pending upkeep; edits, pause, exit and session navigation invalidate obsolete reminders. Failed or cancelled compaction does not schedule another refresh or consume pending upkeep. Missing plans are retried without discarding progress.

This is deliberately passive on Pi 0.85.1: tool-loop continuations, overflow retries and already-queued user messages keep Pi's existing role and compacted context, without an extra model turn just to repeat the plan. They do not receive a newly read plan until ordinary prompt preparation. Pi's triggerTurn: false mid-run path can save a message absent from the live request snapshot; steering can instead force an unwanted turn. We use neither path for upkeep. Passive pause notices use nextTurn, with immediate UI feedback; stopping remains local and remote termination is unconfirmed. Quit sends no model message.

Prompts

You can read all the prompts in conversation order in src/prompts.ts.

Develop

pi                          # use the registered checkout above; do not add a duplicate -e
npm test                    # all unit, flow, and Pi RPC tests
npm run test:rpc            # Pi RPC review flow with a local offline model
npm run typecheck
npm run lint

To measure recorded usage since the latest planning start:

node scripts/session-usage.mjs <supervisor.jsonl> <worker.jsonl>

This separates output, uncached input and repeated cached input. It excludes subprocess API calls. Isolated Herdr test setup.

License

MIT

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pi extension: Set goals in plan.md; a smart supervisor guides cheap worker subagents through long autonomous sessions until your goals are signed off, with every agents pane visible to you.
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