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[MK] The Two Year Emperor, Ch73 ("Commoners with FLEAs") -- ALSO, CHAPTER 72 UPDATED
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Author: u/eaglejarl *
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URL: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9669819/73/The-Two-Year-Emperor
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Score: 20
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Created: 2014-11-22T18:53:40
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u/eaglejarl [+9] (40 seconds later)
Please note that chapter 72 was changed to have completely new content. I would suggest rereading that first, although the order doesn't really matter.
u/failed_novelty [+8] (3 hours later)
I really, really hope they're doing an alignment check prior to putting people through FLEA and POPE - it would just suck if they accidentally created a whole horde of evil folk with the standard set of magic items.
They've made a whole host of things that make it very very difficult for people to die, and it would thus be at least moderately difficult to stop/kill an evil person who got upgraded.
Then again, a Helm of Opposite Alignment Engine stationed near the Detect Evil Engine would work - you can always choose to fail a save.
u/ulyssessword [+5] (2 hours later)
Ring of Heal Every round cost: 6 (Spell level) * 11 (caster level) * 2000 gp (for use activated magic item) = 132,000 gp.
Belt of +6 to all stats: 6^2 (ability bonus squared) * 1000 gp (cost for ability bonus) * ( 1 + 0.75 + 0.5 + 0.5 + 0.5 + 0.5) (six different abilities to boost) = 135,000 gp.
They're already nearing the 200k gp limit for non-epic magic items. If they want more power they'll have to make more restrictions, such as making them only work for Good characters (30% cheaper) or something else.
u/eaglejarl [+7] (2 hours later)
I haven't really been worrying about item costs to date. I suppose I should.
u/alexanderwales [+3] Time flies like an arrow (15 minutes later)
I am just going to assume that they have some big signs up about not putting a Portable Hole in a Bag of Holding or vice versa ...
That said, I'm a huge fan of vignettes, and enjoyed both those chapters quite a bit. I'd be quite pleased if Book II was more like an extended epilogue.
u/eaglejarl [+4] (20 minutes later)
Bag of Holding / Portable Hole: Yep. Actually, I think they're just recalling all Bags of Holding, destroying them, and replacing them with as many Handy Haversacks as the owner wants for them. You can put a PH in a HH, and you can nest HH's in each other -- they are strictly better than a BoH.
I'm glad you like the vignettes / extended epilogue structure. I'm pretty sure that's how it's going to play out.
u/None [+2] (45 minutes later)
I'm glad you like the vignettes / extended epilogue structure. I'm pretty sure that's how it's going to play out.
It kinda reminds me of the Worm Interludes. Definitely a welcome thing.
u/None [+1] (an hour later)
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u/eaglejarl [+3] (an hour later)
No, it's just bags of holding.
Bag of holding rule: "If a bag of holding is placed within a portable hole a rift to the Astral Plane is torn in the space: Bag and hole alike are sucked into the void and forever lost. If a portable hole is placed within a bag of holding, it opens a gate to the Astral Plane: The hole, the bag, and any creatures within a 10-foot radius are drawn there, destroying the portable hole and bag of holding in the process. "
Portable Hole wording: "f a bag of holding is placed within a portable hole, a rift to the Astral Plane is torn in that place. Both the bag and the cloth are sucked into the void and forever lost. If a portable hole is placed within a bag of holding, it opens a gate to the Astral Plane. The hole, the bag, and any creatures within a 10-foot radius are drawn there, the portable hole and bag of holding being destroyed in the process. "
There's nothing in there that says "a bag of holding or anything that works like it" They call it out by name, and it's only that exact combination that has a problem.
And because I've had this argument before: this is how I read the rules, this is how it is in 2YE. If you disagree with this reading, fine. It doesn't change how it works in 2YE.
u/alexanderwales [+2] Time flies like an arrow (an hour later)
My take is that I disagree with it in general, but think that it works for Stupidworld where Rules As Written have already been taken to their extremes.
u/eaglejarl [+3] (an hour later)
On this subject:
u/SvalbardCaretaker [+3] Mouse Army (45 minutes later)
Wuhu, welcome to the era of post-XP-scarcity! Let the mass resurrections begin! Muahahaha benign laughter
u/Chronophilia [+9] sci-fi ≠ futurology (3 hours later)
Why benign laughter? Evil laughter is much more fun.
"You're too late!" cackled Lucifer Von Fiend. "Nothing can stop my Engine of Eternity now!"
"Drat!" cried Max Powers, struggling against his bindings. "Without my gadgets, I'm helpless to stop you from... hmm. By the way, what does your Engine do?"
"You don't know?" The lava's glow reflected off Von Fiend's furrowed brow as he pondered. "Hm, I could have sworn I'd mentioned it earlier. It makes everyone in the world immortal, eternally young, and immune to all injury and illness."
"... wait, so why was I trying to stop you?"
"How should I know? I assumed you had your reasons, it seemed rude to ask."
u/eaglejarl [+5] (3 hours later)
hilarious laughter
u/Chronophilia [+3] sci-fi ≠ futurology (3 hours later)
cryptographically secure laughter
u/eaglejarl [+4] (5 hours later)
cryonic kitten laughter
u/Gurkenglas [+3] (an hour later)
Ooh, are we gonna find out more about how Calvin will go through the FLEA and try to apply ever more desperate hijinks to escape his nightly torment? Maybe find out more about this maid's past...
u/None [+4] (an hour later)
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u/nerdguy1138 [+2] GNU Terry Pratchett (3 days later)
Well, Suze has proven herself to be the Queen of Rules-lawyering.
u/aeschenkarnos [+3] (4 hours later)
Hmm. Judging by her past actions, Suze was probably good or neutral. Capturing and torturing someone is an objectively evil act, by RAW. (So is creating and commanding undead.) She's risking her alignment here, but maybe that's what usually happens to gods of death.
Calvin does deserve a comeuppance. To be tortured by a god seems a bit excessive, and unworthy of her. Which, in the end, is why we don't torture people - they might or might not deserve it, but the consequences to us are not worth it.
u/eaglejarl [+2] (4 hours later)
Suze is Neutral Good and yes, torturing someone is not typical for her. Then again, she's 19 and she was just handed virtually limitless power. More specifically, she was handed the power of Death...gods are shaped by their portfolio (i.e., by the beliefs of their worshippers), and most people's view of Death is not a positive one.
She's got a tough row to hoe if she wants to hold on to her alignment.
u/aeschenkarnos [+3] (6 hours later)
Are you familiar with the other Neutral Good goddess of Death?
u/eaglejarl [+5] (7 hours later)
Ooh, good point. Hadn't thought of her. Thanks for the pointer.
u/VorpalAuroch [+3] Life before Death (13 hours later)
Also might be useful to look at Pathfinder lore; their goddess of death, Pharasma, is true neutral and hates the undead.
u/PeridexisErrant [+1] put aside fear for courage, and death for life (a day later)
Suze, of the Endless
*shivers*
u/puesyomero [+2] The Culture (8 hours later)
it does seem like gods are above that pesky alingment absolutism of mortals. like shalios giving the other nightly torture to the paladin (and he looks like lawfull good) then again is it really torture to visit the good afterlifes? XD
u/eaglejarl [+2] (12 hours later)
is it really torture to visit the good afterlifes?
Nope. I don't think Calvin's going to be seeing many of those, though. ;>
u/Empiricist_or_not [+1] Aspiring polite Hegemonizing swarm (a day later)
I think we are seing the intresting question between torture and dispensing cruel and unusual punishment as a duty. Part of Suzie's portfolio is to send people to hell, and like most "gods" to judge mortals. She's more enthusiastic torturing the poor rapist, but I doubt it's an evil act until she realizes that it's torture, but that's just my 2cp.