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## are the words "Eternal Golden Braid" an anagram or something?
* Author: u/perverse_milkman_art *
* URL: https://www.reddit.com/r/rational/comments/2zb49g/are_the_words_eternal_golden_braid_an_anagram_or/
* Score: 4
* Created: 2015-03-17T02:41:06
### Post:
I see you folks are reading Gödel, Escher, Bach. The book is filled with so many puzzles and self-referential jokes; I remember wondering when I read it years ago why he used that peculiar, specific phrase "an Eternal Golden Braid". Does that have some hidden meaning? An anagram or an encrypted message? I couldn't figure it out.
### Comments:
> **u/None** [+8] (9 minutes later)
>
> Well, it also has the initial letters G, E, and B, albeit in different order.
>> **u/perverse_milkman_art** [+2] (2 hours later)
>>
>> Yeah, that's part of what makes it suspicious. Makes it's an anagram in another language?
>>> **u/None** [+7] (3 hours later)
>>>
>>> Douglas Hofstafdter is fluent in French and spent some time translating his book himself. Mr. Tortoise becomes Madame Tortue to better fit the gender of the noun in that language.
>>>> **u/makemeunsee** [+4] *Mock turtle* (10 hours later)
>>>>
>>>> do you have any more info / reference on that translation bit? He's not listed among the official translators of the French edition.
>>>>
>>>> edit: also there's no evident anagram to "eternal golden braid" or its parts in French
> **u/None** [+6] (24 minutes later)
>
> Abandoned Tree Grill
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> Long Readable Tinder
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> Adorable Gender Lint
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> Alterable Dinner God
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> Algebra Lined Rodent
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> Trainable Ogled Nerd
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> Rational Bred Legend
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> ...I've got nothing.
> **u/Newfur** [+3] *Crazy like a fox. Literally.* (12 minutes later)
>
> No, just an anag-ac-strapolation.
> **u/alexanderwales** [+9] *Time flies like an arrow* (22 minutes later)
>
> I mean, it's an anagram [for a lot of things](http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=eternal+golden+braid&t=1000&a=n). But I don't think that it's an anagram for anything specific. (Douglas Hofstadter took over a column called "Mathematical Games" from Martin Gardner and renamed it as "Metamagical Themas", so he is a fan of anagrams.)
> **u/chaosmosis** [+1] *and with strange aeons, even death may die* (22 hours later)
>
> Brain, rational, learn, agent. Not getting any good overall results, although these words stuck out to me. Probably coincidence, but on the other hand he is clever.
> **u/None** [+1] (2 days later)
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> Eternal - Escher
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> Golden - Godel
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> Braid - Bach
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