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[RT] [Q] Does the author of The Waves Arisen (linked) have any other stories?
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Author: u/Serious_Senator *
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Score: 16
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Created: 2015-09-04T22:04:18
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u/None [+8] (16 minutes later)
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u/None [+8] (an hour later)
You know, I'm rereading the last chapter and it really reminds me of his style. Might just be influenced by him, though, or confirmation bias.
Then again, I doubt he'd write this if he was secretly the author.
I also tried to find the guy back then and completely failed, I agree it's probably a throwaway identity, but why someone would bother writing an amazing story with one I don't know.
u/alexanderwales [+9] Time flies like an arrow (3 hours later)
That's exactly the sort of thing that Yudkowsky would write to throw you off the scent.
u/EliezerYudkowsky [+19] Godric Gryffindor (4 hours later)
I cannot confirm or deny that I am wertifloke.
u/FuguofAnotherWorld [+2] Roll the Dice on Fate (11 hours later)
Theoretically speaking if you were wertifloke, would you happen to know where to find any writings of similar quality and/or style?
u/gabbalis [+4] (19 hours later)
In said theoretical scenario that list would equate to a list of the fictional writings of Eliezer Yudkowsky, yes?
u/FuguofAnotherWorld [+5] Roll the Dice on Fate (19 hours later)
Already theoretically read all of those.
u/melmonella [+2] Tremble, o ye mighty, for a new age is upon you (7 days later)
So you are asking for stories similar to his writings? Maybe something like this then: https://www.reddit.com/r/HPMOR/comments/3f9gly/list_of_stories_similar_to_hpmor/
u/Kishoto [+2] (4 hours later)
^^ This amuses me.
u/derefr [+7] (4 hours later)
Want to do a comparative stylometric analysis? (But if it was Yudkowsky, he'd probably be expecting that, and have used the other tool on the page to anonymize the writing. I wonder if the suggestions the Anonymouth tool makes are predictable enough to prove its usage—whether words are effectively re-attributed to the robot's particular style. That'd be evidence of something, at least.)
One could also likely generate a stylistic signature for every corpus on FF.net to compare to, if one had the inclination.
u/traverseda [+5] With dread but cautious optimism (5 hours later)
NOT PARANOID ENOUGH!
http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3307, only with /u/EliezerYudkowsky instead of Hitler.
^I ^mean ^I ^guess ^a ^charismatic ^cult ^leader ^could ^come ^in ^handy ^sometimes, ^but ^it's ^getting ^a ^bit ^creepy ^guys.
u/literal-hitler [+3] (a day later)
I mean, to be fair, I still don't know how Zach gets such accurate information.
u/FuguofAnotherWorld [+1] Roll the Dice on Fate (22 hours later)
No-one is paranoid enough to intentionally change writing style just to beat an analysis. They could try a new style for kicks or as a challenge, but not for that.
u/alexanderwales [+3] Time flies like an arrow (a day later)
I've intentionally changed writing style in order to beat cursory analysis, though not using any sort of tool. This is mostly in order to anonymously submit low-status works in such a way that they can't be connected back to me. (I've also anonymously submitted works in my own style, but have never been called on it.)
u/None [+3] (a day later)
In Ender's Shadow, Bean decides Locke and Demosthenes were two different people because they had different writing styles, which he didn't think anyone was smart enough to fake. Might've been a joke on Card's account, as his telling the same story from Bean's perspective as he did Ender's is kind of like what Peter and Valentine do with their alter-egos.
u/derefr [+2] (23 hours later)
If you're ordinarily the type to make claim to what some would consider embarrassingly low-status writing (e.g. HP fanfic), but in some particular case you decide to write under a pseudonym, that would suggest that you really want to remain unlinked to that particular work.
Further, if you are aware that your fanbase is the type to be insatiably curious to the point where they would attempt to dox people, and you are also intelligent enough to realize that just using a pseudonym isn't enough to avoid that doxing attempt... then what else could you do but to change your style?
Note that the above-mentioned program automatically makes these stylistic changes for you; it's not hard work.
u/VorpalAuroch [+3] Life before Death (2 days later)
*Yudkowsky
Also, it was posted from January to February of this year. Which a) was, AFAIK, months before Eliezer put up the thing about confirming or denying that authors were him, which seems unnecessarily risky (the other way around seems better), and b) was during the long sprint to the finish for HPMoR, which strains belief somewhat in terms of the writing productivity he'd have had to have.
u/blazinghand [+7] Chaos Undivided (an hour later)
I had a similar thought a few months back.
The author created the username Wertifloke specifically to post and promote The Waves Arisen on a few webesites, then never posted with that username again. From my research, Wertifloke isn't associated with anything else, or any other user. It was an identity created for The Waves Arisen and discarded immediately afterwards.
u/want_to_want [+4] (19 hours later)
I'm seven chapters in. It reads like an imitation of Eliezer's style, but not quite as interesting to read. I don't think it's him.
Edit: I've finished reading the whole thing. Impressions unchanged. It had some funny parts, but I'm positive it's not Eliezer.
u/awry_lynx [+2] Unseen University: Faculty of High-Energy Magic (9 days later)
I'm pretty sure it's Yudkowsky, especially this paragraph
It really hadn’t been that much unlike the case of the nine-tails—certainly not as much as he’d felt a minute ago. Sage mode had been playing tricks on his mind. He resolved that in future he would try to have shadow clones in existence as a precaution at all times, and he’d require all important decisions to be made outside the influence of sage mode, even if it seemed pointless to bother at the time—or, no, especially if it seemed like he shouldn’t bother. And if he ever caught himself trying to avoid even thinking about it so that he could stay in sage mode, that would initiate the emergency shutdown procedure, and his brain would unleash untold horrors upon itself.
It just reads like his writing. It reads exactly like when Harry makes contingency plans.
u/ulyssessword [+1] (15 minutes later)
Paging /u/Wertifloke?
u/FuguofAnotherWorld [+2] Roll the Dice on Fate (44 minutes later)
He hasn't commented in 6 months now
u/protagnostic [+1] (a day later)
Not that I know of, but if you find any I really want to know about it.
u/CannedRealm [+1] (8 days later)
So because of this thread I read the entire story. I remember seeing it back when it posted but I knew nothing of Naruto so I didn't give it a chance. Thank you "Wertifloke", it was absolutely fantastic and gave me many laughs and feelings.
I am confused because from my perspective this was pretty clearly Eliezer's writing but I don't see much consensus on this. Can anyone attempt to answer these questions I have?
I would expect most readers of both The Waves Arisen and HPMOR to think it was by the same author. Is this the case? or am I in the small minority?
If it was written by Eliezer what are some reasons that he would write under another name?
Am I blowing his cover if it is him? Is there a reason it should remain a secret?
u/biomatter [+1] (a month later)
I'm sorry, I know I'm late - but does anyone know where I can find a .mobi of the story? I prefer to read not-on-my-laptop.