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## [RT][FF] "Marked for Death", a Naruto-verse quest (now moved to SV)
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* Author: u/eaglejarl *
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* URL: https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/marked-for-death-a-rational-naruto-quest.24481/#post-4925222
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* Score: 31
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* Created: 2015-12-10T20:02:13
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### Post:
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[Link to content](https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/marked-for-death-a-rational-naruto-quest.24481/#post-4925222)
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### Comments:
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> **u/None** [+9] (2 hours later)
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> [deleted]
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>> **u/None** [+5] (2 hours later)
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>> [removed]
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>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+4] *Roll the Dice on Fate* (2 hours later)
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>>>
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>>> You didn't see aaanything.
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>> **u/eaglejarl** [+3] (2 hours later)
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>> > We've got /u/eaglejarl of Team Anko and Induction fame
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>> 2YE gets no love? ;>
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>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+2] *Roll the Dice on Fate* (2 hours later)
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>>>
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>>> Well I've gone and edited it now so you look like a crazy person :>
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>>>> **u/eaglejarl** [+5] (2 hours later)
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>>>>
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>>>> *laugh*
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>>>>
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>>>> Well, if you insist:
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>>>>
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>>>> <crazy style="grammar nazi">
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>>>> Don't forget your serial commas or [JFK and Stalin](http://www.verbicidemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Oxford-Comma.jpg) will show up.
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>>>> </crazy>
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>>> **u/Transfuturist** [+2] *Carthago delenda est.* (2 hours later)
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>>>
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>>> /u/eaglejarl, /u/FuguofAnotherWorld, /u/Velorien, /u/augsphere, is the gender and/or the name of the character up for vote?
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>>>> **u/eaglejarl** [+3] (2 hours later)
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>>>>
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>>>> Sure. Vote for anything you like. We reserve the right to adjudicate / veto, though.
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>>>>> **u/Reasonableviking** [+8] (2 hours later)
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Would you Veto for instance, Charles Barkley of the Village Hidden in the Jam?
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>>>>>> **u/None** [+10] (2 hours later)
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> [removed]
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>>>>>>> **u/Reasonableviking** [+6] (2 hours later)
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> And Augsphere just stopped me from making an insensate rock with Ninjutsu through the character generation rules, this is a tragedy.
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>>>>>> **u/Transfuturist** [+3] *Carthago delenda est.* (4 hours later)
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>>>>>> This actually made me laugh, instead of breathing slightly stronger than normal. Two thumbs up.
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>>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+1] *Roll the Dice on Fate* (2 hours later)
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>>>>
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>>>> Sure thing.
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> **u/krakonfour** [+8] (2 hours later)
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> I'm in, whatever the cost, whatever I have to do.
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>> **u/None** [+8] (2 hours later)
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>> [deleted]
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>>> **u/krakonfour** [+7] (3 hours later)
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>>> That's not how contract law works! My comment is.. an invitation to treat?
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>>>> **u/None** [+10] (3 hours later)
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>>>>
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>>>> [deleted]
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>>>>> **u/Subrosian_Smithy** [+6] *Nudist Beach* (21 hours later)
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>>>>>
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>>>>> The world doesn't run on *math*, Neo!
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>> **u/krakonfour** [+1] (3 hours later)
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>> My SV forum account is Truthquark.
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> **u/Airgineer1** [+2] (an hour later)
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> Looks like it'll be fun! I'll try to participate under the username -Caconym-. I've never done one of these before so I'm going to step back and let others do the character creation first.
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>> **u/eaglejarl** [+2] (an hour later)
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>> Feel free to post something simple, like this:
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>> plan Caconym
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>> A close range fighter focused on speed instead of power.
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>> You don't need to go crazy with the details.
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>>> **u/Transfuturist** [+2] *Carthago delenda est.* (an hour later)
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>>>
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>>> Doesn't it go like
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>>> [X] A close range fighter focused on speed instead of power.
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>>> I think you need the [X]. And `[X] plan Caconym` is for people adding votes to Caconym's plan, not Caconym himself.
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>>> The chargen rules are open to editing by anyone, so the owner should restrict it to suggestion only.
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>>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+1] *Roll the Dice on Fate* (3 hours later)
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>>>>
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>>>> It does indeed work like that. And the permissions have been fixed.
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> **u/mordorisbad** [+2] (5 hours later)
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> Can we talk a little bit about how the voting works?
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> To me it seems like we can vote for as many alternatives as we want. The way to make sure something doesn't happen then is to vote for everything *but* what you want to exclude.
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> I am also somewhat unsure what is meant by "earlier votes by a user is excluded".
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> My assumption is that you only get one post to vote in. Which makes it a good strategy to go back and edit your voting-post later?
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> It also seems to be the case that simple majority wins.
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> How will you resolve cases that seem similar or have the potential to be combined? I assume a certain degree of consideration is required by the GMs when deciding winners.
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> I am most interested in how you will resolve this in regards to stat-distribution. If a complete stat-distribution with fire-affinity gets 4 votes, but a simple vote for earth-affinity(only, no other details) gets 5 what happens?
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> How will you mix and combine if points are insufficent for both?
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> Say earth-attribute 4 by itself gets 5 votes, but the complete distribution, which only has fire-attribute 2, but no points leftover gets 4 votes, how will they be combined, if at all?
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>> **u/eaglejarl** [+3] (6 hours later)
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>> The only answer I can offer to any of this is "we'll use common sense and try to reflect our best understanding of what people want."
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>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+2] *Roll the Dice on Fate* (6 hours later)
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>> > I am also somewhat unsure what is meant by "earlier votes by a user is excluded". My assumption is that you only get one post to vote in. Which makes it a good strategy to go back and edit your voting-post later?
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>> The voting bot looks back through all of the posts looking for things with an [x] in them. Then is takes the most recent by each person, counts and collates them. Simple majority does indeed win.
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>> In cases of a tie the GMs have a few options, such as waiting another half hour and re-counting, gauging the feeling of people in the thread or just picking the one that will make a better story.
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>> Fortunately votes are kept separate even if they have similar parts. So, you won't end up with a mangled mish-mash of a character made by slamming two other possible characters into each other.
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>> If, later on, you end up in a position where there are 7 people saying go right, and 10 saying go left split into 5 go left and smell the grass with 5 saying go left and kick a rock, it is unlikely that you will end up going right.
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>> **u/None** [+1] (6 hours later)
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>> It's very simple. No one is going to game quests.
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>> As long as that it doesn't happen, it's perfectly fine to do what they do.
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> **u/mordorisbad** [+1] (an hour later)
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> As it stands, everyone with the link to the google document has editing-privileges. I assume this shouldn't be the case?
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> **u/IomKg** [+1] (2 hours later)
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> Just wondering, what are the reasons this is not done here?
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>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+2] *Roll the Dice on Fate* (2 hours later)
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>> Essentially the thread system on reddit would have made any arguments or disagreements expand fractally without end in sight.
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>>> **u/IomKg** [+1] (2 hours later)
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>>> Am I missing something or is the place its hosted on right now just a simple flat forum?
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>>> I was under the impression that similar settings could be set up for threads in reddit as well.. was i wrong or am i missing something about the place its currently hosted?
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>>> *Just so it doesn't sound like I am trying to convince you guys to move here, as these kinds of quests aren't really my thing, i am honestly interested in the reasons..
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>>>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+1] *Roll the Dice on Fate* (2 hours later)
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>>>> Honestly, didn't remember there was the option on reddit. That said, SV would've still come out ahead because it has auto-tally while reddit has both up and down votes, which make for a far more complicated voting system.
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>>>>> **u/IomKg** [+1] (3 hours later)
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Hmm so that voting system is better for quests..
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>>>>> Fair enough I suppose, thanks for the responses :)
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>> **u/eaglejarl** [+1] (2 hours later)
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>> There was a suggestion that reddit's threading structure would be less than ideal, and it was pointed out that other sites have integrated voting systems and dice rollers.
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>>> **u/IomKg** [+1] (2 hours later)
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>>>
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>>> Aren't there dice roll bots in reddit?
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>>> And isn't voting basically what is possible for every post here?
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>> **u/blazinghand** [+1] *Chaos Undivided* (9 hours later)
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>> One of the ways in which forums without upvote/downvote systems work is that it's really really easy to keep track of the order in which posts are made. This is very important for a quest or story like this one.
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> **u/Riddle-Tom_Riddle** [+1] (7 hours later)
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> This looks fun.
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> I, unfortunately, am too damn tired to parse significantly new things, and am just about to go to bed.
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> I'll join in the morning, if I remember.
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> [](/dashiesleep)
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>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+2] *Roll the Dice on Fate* (19 hours later)
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>> We'd be glad to have you on board.
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>>> **u/Riddle-Tom_Riddle** [+1] (20 hours later)
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>>> Ayy, thanks for the reminder! I'll get right on that.
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>>>
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>>> [](/colgateayyy)
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> **u/AmeteurOpinions** [+1] *Finally, everyone was working together.* (a day later)
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> Hm. I know basically nothing about the *Naruto* universe except what I learned through *Lighting Up The Dark*, *Time Braid*, and *The Waves Arisen*. I do think it would be fun to participate, as a cowardly ninja who would rather be an unpowered civilian, to excuse my lack of knowledge. Is that plausible?
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>> **u/krakonfour** [+2] (a day later)
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>> What's happening right now is that a group of people are building one ninja together, then will vote on that character's actions.
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>> **u/FuguofAnotherWorld** [+2] *Roll the Dice on Fate* (a day later)
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>> The world is AU enough your canon knowledge would be mostly irrelevant anyway, so you're fine.
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>> **u/eaglejarl** [+2] (a day later)
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>> That's fine.
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>> Pretty much my entire knowledgebase comes from fanfic and the wiki, so if you've read LUTD, TB, and TWA you're probably fine. I haven't had the interest to read the manga. I tried the anime but it drove me so crazy / bored me so much that I stopped around the end of the Wave arc.
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> **u/XxChronOblivionxX** [+1] (a day later)
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> Welp, guess I'm joining in on this. Discussions should be interesting.
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> Hopefully "Plan Stealth Assassin" ends up winning.
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>> **u/eaglejarl** [+3] (a day later)
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>> It did. In a landslide.
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>>> **u/Transfuturist** [+1] *Carthago delenda est.* (a day later)
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>>> Keep it on the down-low, but my last vote has some background-color elements. I'm trying to be sneaky, like a stealth assassin. :U
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>>>
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>>> Also, in case you didn't see it, I put the Stealth Assassin into [the character spreadsheet as an example.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s2mL8slpx0G-QlGeiZIwuDZA7fkBoyR0GtGorf-Cpmg/edit?usp=sharing)
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>>>> **u/eaglejarl** [+2] (a day later)
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>>>> > Keep it on the down-low, but my last vote has some background-color elements. I'm trying to be sneaky, like a stealth assassin. :U
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>>>> Sneaky indeed!
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>>>> > Also, in case you didn't see it, I put the Stealth Assassin into the character spreadsheet as an example.
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>>>> "Gender: Rock"???
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>>>>> **u/Transfuturist** [+2] *Carthago delenda est.* (a day later)
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>>>>>
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>>>>> > "Gender: Rock"???
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>>>>>
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>>>>> [It's a reference.](https://www.reddit.com/r/rational/comments/3w9pdw/rtff_marked_for_death_a_narutoverse_quest_now/cxuo35o) Also a placeholder.
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>>>>>
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>>>>> I mean, are you going to tell me that rocks have a gender?
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---
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