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## Unsong: Chapter 14 Cruelty Has a Human Heart
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* Author: u/None *
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* URL: http://unsongbook.com/chapter-14-cruelty-has-a-human-heart/
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* Score: 54
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* Created: 2016-04-03T21:52:29
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### Post:
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[Link to content](http://unsongbook.com/chapter-14-cruelty-has-a-human-heart/)
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### Comments:
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> **u/ulyssessword** [+27] (8 hours later)
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> All according to plan. After all, everything will go well, and Ana didn't have a plan to actually *extract* Aaron from UNSONG, just to get to him.
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> Ana's (first half of a) rescue is necessary so that the Vanishing Name teleports him from/to "imminent rescue" instead of from/to "imprisonment" or "interrogation".
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>> **u/Frommerman** [+9] (16 hours later)
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>> That seems like exactly the amount of crazy which is normal for this universe.
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>> **u/awesomeideas** [+3] *Dai stiho, cousin.* (a day later)
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>> Vanishing Name is so broken if you can get the variables correct.
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>> **u/Frommerman** [+2] (2 days later)
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>> He was in a building filled with enemies, with one undetected friend. He will go to the same situation.
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>> Erica is undetected, and on a train filled with UNSONG enriched folks.
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>> **u/Gurkenglas** [+1] (a day later)
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>> If that wasn't the plan, then the complementary situation would also have someone that wasn't planning on saving anyone today.
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> **u/LiteralHeadCannon** [+15] (16 minutes later)
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> What the *fuck* is the equivalent situation to *this*?
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>> **u/callmebrotherg** [+14] *now posting as /u/callmesalticidae* (3 hours later)
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>> Plot twist: Somebody else discovered the Vital Name at the exact same time and is *also* undergoing interrogation at this time.
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>> Of course, that person used the Vanishing Name too, so they'll just switch seats.
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>> **u/thequizzicaleyebrow** [+6] (22 minutes later)
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>> Mafia interrogation?
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>>> **u/LiteralHeadCannon** [+12] (26 minutes later)
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>>>
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>>> I think the official comments section suggested BOOJUM, which seems as likely as anything else to me.
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>> **u/Frommerman** [+2] (2 days later)
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>> One undetected friend in a building filled with enemies. Erica is on a train filled with enemies, and literally passing through a suburb of Hell as well.
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>> **u/None** [+1] (a day later)
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>> What the *fuck* happens when there's no equivalent situation?
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>>> **u/LiteralHeadCannon** [+7] (a day later)
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>>>
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>>> There's always an equivalent situation. That's just how the world works. The situations correspond to each other as things and words do.
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>>>> **u/RMcD94** [+1] (4 days later)
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>>>> What if Neill Armstrong had said it
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>>>>> **u/thelolpatrol** [+1] (5 days later)
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>>>>>
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>>>>> The Apollo 10 mission crashed, so I doubt they would do an Apollo 11...
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>>>>>> **u/RMcD94** [+1] (7 days later)
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>>>>>> I was aware of that in universe. Perhaps the breaking of the seals was all just the vanishing name making sure it'd be unable to be broken
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> **u/mack2028** [+5] (2 hours later)
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> Does anyone else have problems reading this with a TTS engine? I kind of liked the first few chapters but feel like it would be really hard for someone just like, one step more blind than me to be able to understand it. Not sure there is anything you can/should do about it I just wanted to bring it to your attention.
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>> **u/ScottAlexander** [+5] (4 hours later)
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>> What is a TTS engine?
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>>> **u/Noir_Bass** [+5] (4 hours later)
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>>>
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>>> Guessing from context it's text to speech
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>>>> **u/ScottAlexander** [+3] (17 hours later)
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>>>>
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>>>> Anything I can do to make it easier?
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>>> **u/danarmak** [+4] (18 hours later)
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>>>
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>>> It's our universe's version of Llull.
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>>> **u/mack2028** [+2] (7 hours later)
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>>>
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>>> Text to speech, it is what people with poor/no vision use to read.
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>> **u/cae_jones** [+4] (12 hours later)
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>> I'm blind and read it just fine with Eloquence, but no one gives out Eloquence licenses legally anymore. I haven't tried it on my phone.
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> **u/ulyssessword** [+2] (20 hours later)
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> Idea for a nigh-unbreakable klipah: first, get a large set of words that start with each letter of the alphabet (or just random words, really). Next, use the "A" word to represent the first syllable of the Name, the "B" for the second, and so on. A sample Name would look something like this:
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> APPLE BANANA CANTALOUPE DRAGONFRUIT ELDERBERRY APPLE ELDERBERRY CANTALOUPE
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> Use a *different* set of words for each Name, so another one could look like:
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> ATOM BARYON COULOMB DECAY ELECTRON FIELD BARYON GRAVITY HADRON
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> If you want to be trickier, then throw non-klipah words in the middle of the pgrase as well, but make sure that *all* of the licenced users use the *same* filler words.
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> Anyone who knows cryptography want to poke holes in this?
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>> **u/None** [+3] (a day later)
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>> That's kinda like a [one-time pad](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad). In theory unbreakable, but not actually much of an encryption because you would need a new key for each message, and if you're gonna distribute a specialized key you might as well distribute the message itself.
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>> One of the requirements listed is "that the signal be separated from the noise; that the parts which represent letters are fixed in advance and not separated by other parts representing other letters."
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>> So maybe there isn't much signal in that klipah? Your system is much closer to a random scrambling than an encryption.
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>> **u/fljared** [+1] *United Federation of Planets* (23 hours later)
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>> The repetition of the same word for the same syllable means you could get the semblance of the Name. Combine that with some Kabbalisitc knowledge and you could get the name.
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>> A better solution would be to vary the word exchanged based on both the syllable and the position in the word.
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>>> **u/ulyssessword** [+1] (a day later)
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>>>
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>>> >The repetition of the same word for the same syllable means you could get the semblance of the Name.
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>>> The same syllable doesn't show up in the same name very often (I used bad examples above). I don't think that it would meaningfully shrink the search space.
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>>>
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>>> The (prospective) Names in Ch. 1 would look like this (Duplicates bolded, and I did something wrong, as I have too few letters in many of them):
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>>> - ABCDEFG (x3)
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>>> - ABCDE**E**FGHIJKLMN (x7)
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>>> - ABC**C**DEFG
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>>> - ABCDEFG**G**HIJ...ZZZZZZ
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>>>
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>>> Other Names:
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>>>
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>>> - ABCDEFGHIJL (SCABMOM)
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>>> - ABCDEF (Moon Name)
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>>> - ABCDEFG (20/20 Vision Name)
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>>> - ABC (Tetragrammaton)
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>>> - ABCDEFGHIJLKLMN (Vanishing Name)
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> **u/RMcD94** [+1] (3 days later)
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> How can Ana talk to him? He isn't stressed here? He couldn't talk to her before when he thought she was stressed even though she was actually not stressed so I don't understand at all
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