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## Rational Marvel Cinematic Universe Idea
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* Author: u/None *
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* URL: https://www.reddit.com/r/rational/comments/4kf3k7/rational_marvel_cinematic_universe_idea/
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* Score: 7
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* Created: 2016-05-21T19:38:37
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### Post:
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[removed]
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### Comments:
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> **u/SvalbardCaretaker** [+6] *Mouse Army* (an hour later)
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> Quicksilver and/or Iron Man.
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> Remember how Tony has a fleet of autonomous iron suits? And imagine how much better they'd be if there was no need for life support for a weak human in it? And just imagine how much stuff Tony could get done if he didn't have to spend all his time wrestling monsters?
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> And Quicksilver... Dont even get me started on movie quicksilver.
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>> **u/4t0m** [+5] *Chaos Legion* (2 hours later)
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>> Rational versions of those characters would be very powerful, but I'm not sure they'd be the most interesting. Spiderman would work well, I think, since he is an engineer type without a lot of resources, and is a late entrant to a game with a bunch of very powerful players.
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>>> **u/OutOfNiceUsernames** [+3] *fear of last pages* (4 hours later)
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>>> A rational (more or less) speedster character had been (is being) done in [*Fall of Doc Future*](http://docfuture.tumblr.com/post/82363551272/fall-of-doc-future-contents) web-trilogy; and it wasn’t as conflict-crippling as you’d expect. The focus just generally moved from [sub-optimal stuff](http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2305) like fighting [monsters of the week](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MonsterOfTheWeek) to things like preventing the world from careening into any of the parallel-universe lines in which human civilisation ends or changes too drastically (not much of a spoiler, since it pretty much gets highlighted in the Prologue).
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>>> I actually kept comparing Quicksilver to Flicker (the above mentioned speedster) in his (in)actions during my watch of *[X-Men: Apocalypse,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_Apocalypse)* and Quicksilver — the cinematic version, at least — never came out as the advantageous. Even on his crowning scene of awesome the portrayal of his actions was a bit underwhelming. Which is a bit frustrating because they likely had a whole group of people working on the film’s scenario, while the web-novels are written by a single person.
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>>> **u/None** [+1] (21 hours later)
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>>> I like your idea for Spiderman, especially as he is portrayed in Civil War, where he developed his webbing himself. Why stop there? A good portion of the story could be filled by Peter Parker trying to acquire resources to build even more gadgets and devices, really playing up on the 'tinker/scientist' aspect of his character in a way I haven't seen anywhere else :).
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> **u/Roxolan** [+2] *Head of antimemetiWalmart senior assistant manager* (4 hours later)
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> Give creative thinking to the characters who already have the most raw power and you aren't left with much of a story. Iron Man's idiot ball carries the entire franchise ([and setting](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReedRichardsIsUseless)).
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> (Iron Man also has the "tinker" rationalfic problem in that we have no idea about his limits. Whatever the obstacle, the first question becomes "could Tony build a device that neutralizes it?" and the answer is pure author fiat.)
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> Same problem if you give rationality to a leader or close friend of those individuals; that just passes the bucket.
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> I'd rather give rationality to a second-fiddle character. Ant-Man could be interesting (though you'd have to rewrite his entire origin story...). Maybe the Hulk, just because I have no idea how to best leverage the ability to turn into an uncontrollable unstoppable monster and I would like to find out. Most of the mutants/X-Men are also valid choices, if we get to cross the streams.
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> And rational!Kilgrave as an antagonist, for the nightmares.
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>> **u/SvalbardCaretaker** [+2] *Mouse Army* (12 hours later)
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>> Kilgrave already seems relatively rational, its just that his goals are very low Tier.
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>>> **u/Roxolan** [+2] *Head of antimemetiWalmart senior assistant manager* (13 hours later)
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>>> Yeah, sorry, more ambitious Kilgrave is what I had in mind.
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>>>> **u/SvalbardCaretaker** [+2] *Mouse Army* (13 hours later)
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>>>> Yes, that'd be Bad.no need to apologize.
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> **u/Geminii27** [+1] (an hour later)
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> Jarvis/Friday.
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> **u/OutOfNiceUsernames** [+1] *fear of last pages* (4 hours later)
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> OP removed his question, for some reason. I’m not sure what the netiquette is on this, but here’s the essential part, at least:
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> >[..] I couldn't help but notice that marvel has no actual rational thinkers, and yet is such a good setting for them. [..] which character [..] do you think would make the most interesting protagonist for a rational Marvel fic?
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