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## [FF][RST] The Waves Arisen [Ch.5]
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* Author: u/Wertifloke *
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* URL: https://wertifloke.wordpress.com/2015/01/29/the-waves-arisen-chapter-5/
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* Score: 14
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* Created: 2015-01-30T01:09:02
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### Post:
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[Link to content](https://wertifloke.wordpress.com/2015/01/29/the-waves-arisen-chapter-5/)
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### Comments:
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> **u/Anderkent** [+1] (11 hours later)
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> This chapter fell a bit flat. I was confused for a bit about the Hot Springs / Sound village thing. They were used a lot next to each other so I was initially of the impression that HS was the main city of land of Sound, or something, and had to reread once that stopped making sense. Seems sound is a new village that's taken over some HS territory, is that right?
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> But most of all Naruto and Sasuke are holding the biggest idiot ball here. You want to respect his 'I might die but if I live I'll be stronger?' Okay, but what reason you have to believe its true? Just the word of a stranger that conveniently knows a lot about your powers? That might be in character for canon!naruto, but is jarring here.
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>> **u/AugSphere** [+3] *Dark Lord of Corruption* (13 hours later)
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>> I thought it worked well. Naruto was panicking about alienating Sasuke and did not think the situation through properly and Sasuke never had half a brain when it came to "free" powerups to begin with. It's still idiotic of course, but believable nonetheless.
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>> **u/rumblestiltsken** [+3] (20 hours later)
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>> I don't like how it reads either, it doesn't *feel* realistic, but it probably is about right.
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>> Psychologically you have several biases in play for both of them.
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>> Orochimaru is playing the trustworthy friend to kabuto's suspicious character, think of it as a form of God cop bad cop.
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>> Sasuke has been given a very valuable gift for free, the sharingan he is obsessed with, so he now trusts snake face way more than he should.
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>> Then his new benefactor is honest with him about the risk of the cursed seal (but only partly, presuming it still carries the other side effects) which again builds trust.
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>> Finally, this person he trusts has used it himself (apparently, presumably a lie) so he clearly thinks the risk is worth it. Add in the story they *happened* to overhear about a young, short chunnin beating several jounin at once...
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>> As for Naruto, in this story he is riddled with insecurity. He describes them all as loners, like he is trying to see similarities between them. Projection, or something.
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>> He is constantly trying to tie their team together and make a family it seems, because he hasn't had any before. He gives away power for free, despite knowing how valuable it is.
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>> And he had also fallen for the small risk/big risk set up by orochimaru.
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>> I think the characters as written could do this. It just reads like they are being silly, because they are being gamed and each have psychological weaknesses.
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>>> **u/Anderkent** [+2] (20 hours later)
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>>> I dunno, Naruto is actively trying to convince Sasuke not to try it at least for part of it; "why do you think it's even going to do anything if it works" is such an obvious question, ugh.
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>>> Oh well. The story goes on.
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>>>> **u/Wertifloke** [+2] (20 hours later)
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>>>> Question added, HS/Sound clarified.
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>>>>> **u/Anderkent** [+2] (22 hours later)
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Thanks; can't say if it helped, you can only read a chapter for the first time once :P
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>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2] (a day later)
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>>> > He is constantly trying to tie their team together and make a family it seems, because he hasn't had any before. He gives away power for free, despite knowing how valuable it is.
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>>> In a team, power is more valuable when shared. If teammates are more powerful, it might lead to you not dying.
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>>>> **u/rumblestiltsken** [+2] (a day later)
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>>>> I agree, but the young Naruto seems to be rationalising when he takes that position, to my mind. His underlying motivation seems to be insecurity.
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>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2] (a day later)
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>>>>> Well, it paid off massivley in the newest chapter.
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>>>>> Sure, I'd agree, especially when he was all for illegally teaching kagebunshin to his team.
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>>>>>> **u/rumblestiltsken** [+1] (a day later)
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>>>>>> It has paid off *if* Sasuke doesn't get corrupted by the seal. Which he put right on his frontal lobes.
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>>>>>>> **u/kaukamieli** [+1] (a day later)
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>>>>>>> I meant for Naruto. Sasuke is a lost cause I believe.
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>> **u/kaukamieli** [+2] (12 hours later)
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>> They should have just reported everything to Kakashi before going for awakening of the sharingan.
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>> After that, Sasuke was hooked for easy powerups.
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> **u/ToaKraka** [+1] *https://i.imgur.com/OQGHleQ.png* (12 hours later)
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> Maybe I'm too used to seeing Hinata stutter through every other word in the stories I read--but, until this chapter, I was assuming that she didn't have her canon shyness because I hadn't seen anything to indicate otherwise (stuttering, smiling only weakly, shrinking in on herself, etc.). Maybe it should've been made more apparent earlier?
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> **u/Wertifloke** [+1] (a day later)
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> Chapter 6 is up, reddit link is in the spam filter for now.
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>> **u/kaukamieli** [+1] (a day later)
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>> Why does it always go there? Can't someone do something?
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