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## Rules for the Effective Hero
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* Author: u/None *
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* URL: https://projectdxm.wordpress.com/2017/02/23/rules-for-the-effective-hero/
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* Score: 26
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* Created: 2017-02-23T14:17:04
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### Post:
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[Link to content](https://projectdxm.wordpress.com/2017/02/23/rules-for-the-effective-hero/)
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### Comments:
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> **u/hoja_nasredin** [+17] *Dai-Gurren Brigade* (39 minutes later)
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> But being rational you lose the plot armor. Are the benefits you gain are worth the power of the storyteller being on your side? I don't think so. Statistical evidence that in heroes adventures where the hero does stupid shit the end result (number of loved ones severly hurt) is much better.
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>> **u/DRMacIver** [+19] (55 minutes later)
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>> Alternatively, behaving sensibly increases the chances of you being in a rational!fic significantly, which tend to end up with the hero achieving some form of godhood, and thus a long run much more beneficial situation.
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>>> **u/Caliburn0** [+12] (3 hours later)
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>>> Or, you know, actually achieving a positive result, which is much better than the normal 'return to norm' way most stories end.
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>>>> **u/thrawnca** [+5] *Carbon-based biped* (5 hours later)
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>>>> I'm reminded of The Sword of Good.
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>>> **u/None** [+2] (a day later)
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>>> I love how you're basing this off anthropic reasoning.
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>> **u/Sparkwitch** [+15] (3 hours later)
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>> As I've mentioned before, this is because the stories which end "...and thus perished our hero" don't tend to get retold. Legends are evidence, yes, but they're too infected with [survivorship bias](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias) to be used as proper data.
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>> Plot armor is an artifact of poor sampling methodology, not a superpower.
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>>> **u/JackStargazer** [+8] *Primordial Apologist* (4 hours later)
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>>> That [sounds familiar. ](http://lesswrong.com/lw/14h/the_hero_with_a_thousand_chances/)
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>>> **u/hoja_nasredin** [+4] *Dai-Gurren Brigade* (18 hours later)
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>>> Good point
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>>> http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/path-of-a-hero
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>> **u/LeifCarrotson** [+4] (3 hours later)
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>> >(number of ~~loved~~ ones severly hurt)
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>> The hero's loved ones aren't the important thing. Did Superman or Batman actually act the hero when civilians died off screen as the results of their actions or inactions?
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>> From the article:
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>> > 20 Collateral damage is bad PR.
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>> Collateral damage to people is tragic. Not bad PR, people *died*. Collateral damage to property - say, a skyscraper collapsing - is probably a more expensive than the income that your mild mannered alter ego will earn in their entire lifetime.
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>>> **u/None** [+2] (23 hours later)
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>>> It is funny, because now that I think about it, a lot of heroic stories make more sense if the hero's goal isn't really to save people, but to defeat the enemy.
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>> **u/None** [+1] (11 hours later)
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>> Perhaps it's best to just become a mary-sue in the name of the greater good.
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> **u/Kylinger** [+15] (11 hours later)
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> > Give weapons and combat training to the beautiful damsel as soon as possible. Give the same training to the cute kid.
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> Only do this if you want to turn yourself into the tragic backstory of a YA fantasy novel.
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> **u/kaukamieli** [+3] (15 hours later)
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> There is a hero list too.
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> http://www.worldconquer.org/evil_overlord.html
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> **u/mack2028** [+3] (a day later)
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> I disagree wholeheartedly with "why did you do it" being a useless question. If you know the why of something happening you can prevent it happening in the future.
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